Think what you want about Tommy Robinson .

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  1. Kei

    Keith Active Member

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    Explain to me then the difference between the syrian refugee saga and this incident that has gone viral yesterday. Why was one all over national news while the other has had to be shared by the public to gain any kind of publicity?
     
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    Everyone loves a good cover up!
     
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    Unfortunately cover ups happen . Many years ago I had a pub In Maidenhead near Slough.. I used to get a lot of journalists in.. many worked for the bbc.... One day I got chatting with one of my regulars and I could tell there was something wrong with him he was fuming... It turned out that he and his colleagues had been sensored from running a story.. About Michael Hesletines sister in law ( Hesletine who was a Tory government minister) sister in law getting arrested for shop lifting. Apparently it had come from the very top.
    He cited it was not in the best interests of the country... Nor looking favorable on the government... He continued... been any other party this story would have been all over the tabloids ..... Its not the first offence might I had .. she's noted for it ... He added we were going to run with it on tonights news even though we got a couple of telephone calls from hesletines office then the man himself ... Followed by one from the MI6 .... To which we were ordered to pull it....... So to me cover ups happen
     
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    When something goes to court judges decide whether there should be reporting restrictions, guided by legal argument in the interests of the public & victims.
    (A paedophile case may lead to the arrests of others & heir case should not be influenced by press reporting, or they may get off).

    The situation of the girl who joined ISIS isn't the subject of a court case as yet, unless someone decides to bring her back to the UK. If it did, then it's likely similar a similar ruling would be made, as groomers may be found.
     
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    Im not talking about any case thats been to court. Im talking about two incidents that initially went viral on social media. The first (syrian refugee) was very quickly picked up by the national media and was ran with for days. The latest one (young lad being attacked by an asian group) has yet to have any tv coverage unless ive not seen it?
     
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    Was on Look North.
     
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    Keith is right in what he's saying although he may not have put it across very well. It's been on look north but hasn't been on national news, this morning, sky news, the Jeremy Vine show or the Victoria Derbyshire show has it.
     
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    There have been a lot of knifings in London. London always gets the press coverage.
     
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    The Syrian refugee was not from London and it went national Sorry but proportional news coverage. And before anyone says it no two wrongs don't make it right.
     
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    You have lost me?
     
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    My mistake then I didnt watch it. Didnt see it on the national news though.
     
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    It's not 'national news'. People take beatings of kinds in every provincial town up and down the country all the time. Its only newsworthy in that particular area, the area its pertinant to. It has been shown on the local news which is to be expected.
     
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    If one is worthy enough to be on national news then so is the other. Infact I’d say the attack on a lone white boy by a group of asian youths is much worse than the pouring of water on the Syrian boys head.
     
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    But the difference there is that the boy was a Syrian refugee, not local to Bradford which kind of makes it a broader issue. The assault in Bradford was undertaken by people from Bradford with the victim being from Bradford as well which kind of makes it local (a sickening assault nonetheless)
     
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    Both took place in England. One was an English boy being savagely beaten, one was a refugee having water thrown over him after apparently joining in an attack on a girl. Tell me why the first issue isnt as fit for national coverage as the second please?
     
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    Probably because the Syrian boy had fled from his country where he and his family were being bombed and brutalised by their own government and isis. So there would be an expectation that he had landed in a safe country where he would be afforded the protection he deserved after suffering so much?
     
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    The likelihood is that the syrian boy and his family ‘fled’ here after having already been in several safe countries. Countries that dont offer the same benefits as ours. Not quite sure why the situation in their country means they come to ours and are put before our citizens mind.

    Surely our citizens should be afforded the same protection as the one you speak of for the syrian boy?
     
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    Yes i'm pretty certain that the Syrian boy didn't get on a flight from Damascas to Heathrow. So you don't want the UK to take a small % of Syrian refugees? Many other European countries have taken more: i guess their welfare system is greater than ours...
     
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    I have nothing against helping those who need help, after we have helped our own who need it. I went to London just before christmas and the amount of homeless was staggering. Again im not stupid and realise theres certain people who pose as homeless but still, these people seemingly get no help while we’re happy to take refugees from half way round the world, home and feed them and in return we get to watch certain parts of our country being turned into little snippets of the third world, barbaric countries they came from.

    A further point, nobody took our people in when Hitler was poised just over the channel. It was stand and fight against all odds with little to no help.
     
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    "Our own who need it" Well that would include a few milion people who were born here but are of ethnic origin, but definitely British: hope you're including these?
    I think i'll leave the rest of your comments for others to comment on.
    You've gone down a pretty dark line
     
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