Revoke A50 Petition

I have to say, two remarkably naive comments stand out in this thread (three if you read Rogue Trader's wonderful, idealistic paradise World with no race, borders and free movement for everbody, anywhere anytime.)
I cant be bothered to troll backe over many pages to attribute the other two to the relevant poster but I am sure they know who they are.
1 Economic interdependence reduces the risk of war. Hmmm!! Conventional war, possibly, but what sort of Economic inter-dependence are we talking. For example, if Countries in Europe rely on electricity or gas from another country e.g. Russia (Italy relies heavily on cross border Electricity suppliers ) then that reliance can be 'weaponise' by the supplier especially if 'State owned'. In extreme cases that could escalate into a conventional war-like confontation between two or more countries.
2 Someone commented about Greece and EU austerity measures 2008 aimed only at countries "spending beyond their means". It was also pointed out that the UK, not being in the EZ, chose (like the EU) to impose austerity measures .Pretty much all of the cash injections ECB has given the Greeks has been instantly taken back to pay the bankers and service the loan interest (a la loan sharks!), Ordinary Greeks have suffered massively e.g. pensions, admittedly absurdly high, were cut overnight by two thirds!! More than a million pensioners get less than 500euros pm.

The UK WAS also spending way beyond its means, The deficit when the coalition came to power was huge. A large part of that was due to the 2008 crash but exacerbated by the spending spree the Labour Government went on prior to that. Unpalatable though it is to Corbyn supporters, austerity has massively reduced the deficit (albeit the distribution of the burden has not been equitable) but we still have not got to surplus hence the National debt has risen considerably. Npr can you invest what you haven't got without incurring huge interest charges on top by borrowing more
Anyway I am getting off topic.

 

if you research austerity in the eu you will soon discover that most members initiated it and practically all did it by cuts to public spending,whether that be welfare states,public sector jobs etc including defence cuts,..yets for some unknown reason it is only this government thats is critised, the eu on the other hand seem to get away scott free

 

Your true colours reveal themselves.

Nobody is shocked. As i've said before, not all Leave voters are racist and bigots, but all racists and bigots are Leave voters.

This is a horrible thing to say, though, I don't know how you can even type something like that out and think "yep, that's how I want to be seen to others".

People like you are the reason for all the violence in this country, complete intolerance and a feeling of racial supremacy that's so deeply ingrained into you that you probably don't even know it exists.

 

You’ve obviously been watching will self. At the end of the day we had a demicratic vote to leave or stay and leave won. We cant just keep voting until remain gets the vote they want. What then ? Another vote and another. We couldnt replay the liverpool game willard fked up, we cant have another vote. It isnt racism not to want to be ruled by Brussels. It isnt racism to see the obvious pitfalls of uncontrolled immigration. Its common sense to uphold democracy. Otherwise there’d just be anarchy wouldnt there.

 

Leave didn't win. We all lost - the last 3 years have more than show that.

Asking the same set of people (e.g. the British public) 'is this still what you want?' is the most democratic thing you can possibly do.

To suggest otherwise is quite frankly wrong.

 

Ignore. Misread

 

That does sound pretty racist to be honest. If you have an issue with people being in this country because of who they are then that is racist. We need to ramp up diversity and interbreeding even more so that there no longer is a ‘white race’. When that happens I suspect racism will disappear too which will be better for all humanity.

 

Well said. I actually cried when I read his post, I’m not ashamed to admit that. I cried for all the people that suffer in the West because of the vitriol hurled against them by people who hate them purely for the colour of their skin and the religion they follow. These kind of things result in the horrific events that happened barely over a week ago where innocent people find themselves deprived of life before their time and it upsets me so much. Leaving the EU has emboldened people to be more like this, to hate people with a different colour skin more openly, to criticise Islam and upset worshippers by insulting their religion. These things need to be stamped down on to protect the vulnerable people of our country.

 

Not half as hard as I'm laughing at the fact that in your rush to dismiss my post you've completely missed my point.

The careerist politicians and their toadies (and the various special interests that fund them), who dominate the political landscape in this country, are self-evidently the problem and need completely sweeping away, to be replaced (hopefully) by other individuals/parties that will actually do something meaningful to solve the problems, and who couldn't care less how it might play on the likes of HIGNFY.

The way the Government and parliament have behaved ever since the referendum result has made that outcome far more likely, another welcome bonus arising from the leave vote courtesy of Gina Miller and her efforts to thwart the result - the law of unintended consequences.

 

the EU as an organisation is knkd - fkd - finished.
Recent poll suggests that following the European elections a third of all seats will be held by anti-EU parties.

 

No, what we’ve done for the last 3 years is p!ss about trying to tie us to a deal that effectively keeps us in. The country voted to leave, like it or not we didnt vote for a deal we voted to leave. The most democratic thing to do is to act on the mandate of the majority. This is how democracy is supposed to work isnt it ?

 

Please explain how asking the same group of people if they still want to leave is undemocratic?

 

Reported.

 

I dont, and I’m not. I have an issue with the numbers of people and their motives for coming here. It’s simple maths isnt it, x amount of resources shared out amongst too many and you’ve an issue. Reduce the numbers coming in and the issue becomes less. Its not a question of race, immigration is neccessary. Uncontrolled immigration from Europe is madness.

 

The deal is to tie up all the future commitments we’ve signed up to etc in a satisfactory way for both party’s .
Leaving with no deal is a breach of our contracts and could cost astronomicaly in the future with trade deals being blocked etc.

 

Because it would undermine every vote on anything in the future, if we’re just going to vote again when the minority arent suited whats the point in voting in the first place ?

 

i think if you read my post correctly you will realise it was not meant that way at all,rogue trader was going on about there being no white people left in a few years , the shitty brown colour was a reference to what we may end up like once all the colours are mixed,it was tongue in cheek and not a racist slur, but if you think it was then thats up to you,i even put lol after it to show it was a joke,tongue in cheek, if you think that makes me a white supremacist then god help you

 

No, we wanted to end free movement of people from the eu, trade with both europe and be free to strike our own trade agreements with other countries, oh and make our own laws. The eu want to tie us to the lisbon treaty and have a hard irish border. In other words europe says no. Mays deal would be terrible for the uk as it will tie us to the eu indefinately. Not what we voted for which is why she cant get it through.

 

Ah... Glad I'm not the only one that called you out on that.

Revolting post.

 

maybe you should report mr rogue trader for suggesting we interbreed to get rid of white people... even tho he is probably joking.

i can well imagine what you'd have to say if he'd said lets interbreed to get rid of black people