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  1. Ton

    Tonjytyke Well-Known Member

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    I've just seen a list of rule changes proposed. Changes that cover goalkeepers during penalties, behaviour in defensive walls etc. The one that stands out for me though is the one covering goal kicks. At present the ball has to leave the area after a goal kick to be 'in play'. This new rule says that the ball is 'in play' as soon as the ball is kicked. This is to stop a defender who is waiting for the ball to leave the area, stepping into the area and touching the ball (in order to force the goal kick to be retaken) if he is being closed down by an opponent. Good idea, but wouldn't it be better, and make for the chance of a bit more excitement if the penalty for the defender encroaching the area in this fashion was an indirect free kick to the attacking side where the ball was touched by the defender?
     
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    No the new goal kick rule change is sensible. Attacking players still not allowed into the area. As things stood, the goal kick was the only restart where you have to pass the ball 12 yards or more, which serves no purpose.
     
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    I also think the rule that an attacking player is not allowed with 1 metre of a defensive wall is sensible. Stops attacking players deliberately breaking up the wall by barging into it.
     
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    Out of curiosity, is it actually a metre? Just wondering because we still have a '6 yard' box etc, would seem weird to mix the two
     
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    I coach a girls team, the rules we were sent out stated metre. I'm pretty sure that the smallest of the boxes is not called the '6 yard box' in France or Spain. The rules are FIFA rules not FA rules.
     
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    So does that mean the attacking player can come into the box until presumably a defender touches the ball?
    Does than mean a goalkeeper could just tap the ball so it stays in the box, the defender comes and stands next to it but doesn't touch it then just run the clock down?
     
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    Players aren’t allowed in the box until the kick is taken. Then once taken the ball is in play. An attacking player is also allowed in the box and can play it before a defender. Don’t know where the idea attackers aren’t allowed to play the ball before it leaves the box comes from
     
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    That makes a lot more sense thanks.
     
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    Seriously need to look at goalies wasting time ...have seen opposition score in 1st 5 minutes at Oakwell only for them to then start time wasting for 80+ minutes. especially the goalie..also goalkeeper predominantly gets injured in the last 5 mins ... cos he cant leave the field after treatment...infuriating
     
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    I can’t understand why they can’t adopt a similar approach to rugby and stop the clock when there is a delay. Or better still timing the way some sports do it and stop the clock whenever the ball is not in play. 2 x30 minute halves where only the time the ball is active counting should work
     
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    Shrewsbury did from the moment the game started and still carried on doing it when they went 1-0 down.
     
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    They did, and that was very confusing, but nevertheless, welcomed!
     
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    They were not the only team either. Wycombe played the same defensive tactics at home against us. It worked well for them at their ground. At Oakwell they continued to play defensively at 2-0 down. They only changed in the last 20 minutes when Akinfenwa came on as substitute.

    The rough average time for a goalkeeper to take a goal kick is between 30 and 50 seconds. Davies is no better when it suits our match position.
     
  14. Ton

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    What about a penalty kick though, that’s 12 yards , although having thought about it, you don’t HAVE to kick the ball 12 yards, just a circumference of the ball.
     
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    With Regards to OP comments

    The law on the goal kick was originally set up to stop the ball being played by a defender straight to the goalkeeper to pick up with his hands, as the intentional back pass is no longer allowed the need for the ball to leave the area before it is touched is negated however what I suspect will happen as with all laws are the players will find a way to exploit it I.E. Goalkeeper flicks ball to defender in area who chests / heads ball back to goalkeeper who then spends 5 minutes laying on the floor / walking in area with the ball to waste time, hope I am wrong but I can see it happening!
     
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    The clock is stopped when the ball is not in play which is why time is added on at the end of each half. When the ball is out of play in time added on the clock is stopped and that’s why the announcer says “ a minimum of x minutes will be played”
     
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    Wish football had same rules as both rugby codes whereby arguing with or confronting a match official results in some sort of punishment.
     
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    That would be classed as a indirect free kick to the attacking side. Just same as if a Defensive player flicks the ball up to his self and heads it back to the keeper to hold.
    It’s classed as “infringement upon the rules of the game” and also a yellow card offence.

    Referee course come in handy I would recommend anyone to do it just for the experience if nothing else
     
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    No it's not, the referee does not stop his watch whenever the ball goes out of play. In most games of football the ball is only "in play" between 60-65 minutes I believe. That's why @Farnham_Red suggested 2 30 minute halves I believe, as it would be about the current length we actually get.
     
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    If that was the case, there would be half an hour additional time each half.
     

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