So dad, you lost

Fantastic drama but they got us all out we only got 8 of their wickets , we lost , that’s cricket not a silly Americanised ‘super over’ that chuffing soft ball/ rounders

 

Definitely. It's part of the beauty of cricket, that so many factors can come together to influence the result, including the weather - which is about as arbitrary as you can get.

 

As many people have already mentioned, we'd have played the final over completely differently had wickets been a decisive factor.

 

Yes of course they did

 

I've just googled the laws and if it's anytime during the innings the batsman gets six and the team receives 1. So it's seven in total. However If the batsman is on 99 and it's the last ball of the innings and the batsman hits it for six he doesn't get anything and the no ball finishes the game.

 

The rules clearly state that the one with the most runs wins, not the one who takes the most wickets.

 

A No-Ball is retaken, just as a wide would be. It could also be a free hit, depending on the reason for the no ball. Otherwise bowling team defending any more than 7 off the last over would just throw a load of unplayable no balls (full toss 20 ft above the batsman head) to give the other side 6 runs and win the game.

 

So if we had a referendum to leave the EEC and voted to leave would we have another because the people who voted to remain weren`t happy?

 

As I posted on the other thread........


Just reading that actually the umpires made a mistake and England should have only been awarded 5 runs, not 6 as at the moment the ball was thrown in the two batsmen had not crossed thus making the second run incomplete. Additionally, as they hadn't crossed at that point Stokes should have gone back to the other end leaving Rashid to face the 5th ball with 3 to win. It's pathetic that the ICC can spend all this time and money on replays for umpire judgement calls and change the laws to make the game more exciting, but it can't use the same replay to sort out decisions of actual fact.

 

Not if it's the last ball of the game and the batting team needs 1 run to win.

 

With that in mind could the result be over turned like in horse racing.

 

This is the problem when you turn to TV for everything (Im personally still not convinced hawk eye gives 100% accurate view of the balls trajectory) but then give the umpires enough rope to hang themselves with when they get the laws of the game wrong. It's patently ridiculous and one of the reasons why I barely watch the game anymore. No longer is a wicket truly celebrated as everyone has to stand around waiting for TV to give a verdict.They should just do away with on field umpires if they want 100% correct decisions.

 

It long stopped being about cricket. It's about TV. Capitalist sh*ts ruined the game like they do with all other sports.

 

We'd have probably lost sooner.

 

Maybe. But it's all hypothetical.

 

Hawkeye isn't 100% and that is recognised by the manufacturer. That is why we have the anomoly where more than half the ball has to be hitting the wicket under a review for lbw.

 

All members signed off on the rules prior to the tournament and New Zealand were aware of exactly what they needed to do in that Super Over in order to surpass England’s total. New Zealand failed to do that and as a result England were crowned world champions. Whilst it’s correct to say that the scores were tied it’s completely incorrect to state that the match ended in a draw given that England won, as per the rules of the game.

It’s worth noting that New Zealand only qualified for the semi finals by virtue of superior net run rate after “drawing” on points with Pakistan. Presumably the OP felt aggrieved at this as well...

Very peculiar late night musings following one of the greatest sporting achievements in recent memory.

Very BBS.

 

I'm as chuffed as anyone but it feels a bit like we won on a technicality to me. Also the batsman hadn't crossed for the second run when the throw came in so if I were a New Zealander I'd rightly be aggrieved.

 

The umpires made their decision, rightly or wrongly, and we tailored our game as a result. Do you think we would’ve knocked it for a single off the last ball if we needed two to tie as opposed to one? We’ve been on the receiving end of poor decisions as well this tournament don’t forget. In my opinion the win was richly deserved and marks the culmination of a wonderful four years.