Ashes

I wasn't saying that it was umpire's call, my point was that the umpire didn't know that it wouldn't come back umpire's call. So if he thought it was not out he should give it not out regardless of reviews, as there was a chance that the review wouldn't be conclusive. If he had given it out, it could have come back umpire's call and then he's out even though the umpire actually thought it wasn't out.

So if the umpire were to give it out just because Australia didn't have any reviews left they'd actually be benefitting from their own **** reviewing.

 

I think we're agreeing here. I read your post as saying it was umpires call. Crossed wires.

 

So you are, apologies, seems we are all in agreement then.

 

We won, they lost, and I was there to see it. Get in .

 

I was there. Popular Stand B Row J58. Amazing. Fantastic. Despite Northern Rail's attempt to stop me from going by putting on a two coach first train to Leeds from Sheffield on the Thurnscoe line and twots on board already pissed up trying to stop people getting on - I squeezed on.

 

I always admit when I’m wrong.

Hence why I don’t need to here. My views are constant and don’t need validation from anyone, especially people who are themselves wrong ;-)

 

If you ever use Bob Willis as someone to balance your argument, it’s time to check in somewhere for long term medical attention.

Nice name check by the way, nearly right *wink*

 

As Ian Dury once sang " **** off Noddy " .

You closet Aussie.

 

I'm guessing you've aimed that at me. Nice to keep discussion at a really good level, not falling for a pointless useless reaction at all. Bravo. (Another for the mute bin)

Just a question, for anyone, so feel free to chip in.

I have a different opinion to others on this. I think Stokes has failed many many times and is overrated. I think he's let us down far more times than he's done what he did in the second innings (first innings happening to be a prime example). He did well and rode his luck when he should have been out several times. But my question is this. Why is having a different opinion on such an unimportant issue such a big deal for some that they have to dumb down and try and belittle and abuse? Fair play to the ones who haven't and I'm happy to debate. I suspect neither side would change their minds, but for others, to take dialogue to such a pointless personal level, that's clearly not true...

Whats that all about, really?

People have different views. People have different perspectives. People have different experiences.

Just to say the obvious, but that's all fine. It's allowed.

 

Someone who tells it like it is you mean.
If he thought Stokes wasn't very good he'd let you no.
All the ex-professional and many great players passing comment on him must be wrong eh

 

Bet you left to get the train really at 9 down ;-)

 

He's said many times Stokes is a poor player. Willis is a reactionary and generally why he isn't on the front line of commentators.

Of course Stokes is better than not very good.

Anyone can comment on anything. A player, a non player. So i'm really not sure where you've got the notion I want to suppress ex players stating their views. Because clearly that's not true.

I simply have a different view. It's ok, really, it is.

 

Er...... ok then

 

Thanks for that.

 

Your welcome. I would have written something far more intellectual but there was obviously no point.

 

Indeed. Thanks again. (It's you're, but of course you know this, having intellectual capacity and all *wink*)

 

You must be a hoot at a party.

 

Thanks again. Why you have to be abusive I'm not entirely sure. But feel free to carry on how you think is acceptable. But its the mute bin for you. Ciao.

 

I'm just glad that I was there to see it. Yes, Leach should have been run out, but he wasn't. Yes, Stokes should have been given out LBW, but he wasn't. Yes, Stokes shouldn't have played that shot in the first innings, but he did. It's sport at the top level and the unpredictability of it keeps us coming back. It's the four inch between the ears that usually determines winners from losers.

 

Wow, have you really just played the victim too. You know what good luck to you, i actually thought you were quite level headed, I thought you could have maybe accepted you might have been wrong on something when offered evidence to counter your position. it seems I was wrong. Ah well il bid you a good day, I’m quite sure not listening to my drivel will greatly enhance it.