Bad news on the injury front

Just going better than Sibbock

 

If success is purely financial stability then the model works right up to the point that on field success fails. If financial stability is the ultimate approach on field failure will undermine the business model.

 

Excellent post.

If the intent is to progress in footballing terms while generating our own means to do so without external loans, share issues or other debt based means, the question is the transition from one team to the next and allowing progression that doesn't harm developing.

If the intent isn't to progress in footballing terms, what happening this window will be the norm with massive upheaval each summer at least as contracts generate more leverage and the club gets more worried they cant capitalise.

There are considerable risks if players don't develop, if we continue to accept very poor fees compared to other clubs and if we have ceilings we self impose that prevent more team ready players still with potential to join us.

We're the only one signing so many untried 19-21 year olds. I'll be interested to see the financial plights of Luton and Millwall who don't seem to be busting themselves to stay in the Championship (though we'll not know til we see their results in the future)

 

I don’t think that’s fair. Around this time last season he got some stick because he was too attack minded & often in the wrong half when we were under attack, he’s been brilliant this calendar year & by far & away our best full back. I bet if you looked back you’d really struggle to find any criticism of him in the last 6 months

 

I think its fair. He is not a good defender and young Williams was looking better. I can understand the clubs view on who to play at RB this year. I don't think what the club as said about Cavare is a lie. Wasn't he out of contract at the end of last season, if so we would have resign him for him to play. I also note that owing to injuries he played a LB and not RB.

 

Glad about that, didn't like the thought that he would have deliberately injured a team mate in training, thanks for clearing up what i'd heard.

 

You are saying that we aren’t paying players enough and at the same time warning against going down the Bolton route. The plan is to generate extra revenue from player sales so we can eventually pay more. As we are at the start of that process the first thing we are going to have to do is get the cash by selling the players, you can’t start spending money on wages based on expected income. It’s got to be in the right order, we buy players cheap sell them for profit first.

 

I wouldn't agree we're at the start of the process. Selling Hourihane, Winnall, Mawson, Roberts et al was certainly along the lines of self sufficiency.

There is a huge gap between the club going out of business and the club enacting a strategy that relies on very very young players and requires significant restructuring in transfer windows.

I know some people have stated they want billionaires investing millions and showing ambition, and I absolutely don't want that. But I think its naïve that they cant afford wages but are willing to pay a higher level of transfer fee. It doesn't equate that every single loan is a waste of money. It doesn't equate that every player over 26 is past it, greedy, too expensive and only in it for themselves.

Its a very good line they've had a bite with to encourage this very young recruitment drive. It may well work, but its caused a huge amount of feelgood to dissipate in a very short time. Its caused significant frustration from the manager. It's dented confidence in our players and we've failed to get much bounce in momentum from our promotion.

There is plenty of time to improve and turn it round, but my perception til it does is our recruitment was poor and buying better with less volume and some experience would have benefitted us more. But it feels like the club wish us to consider anything besides very young players on a sales conveyor belt to be heresy.

 

Under the new regime we would have for more money for those sales as we wouldn’t have been staring at last year contracts and the prospect of them going on a free. We’ve had 4 games of the first season back in the championship and there’s people running around like it’s the fall of Saigon. I think we need to trust the plan. Personally, for example, I didn’t see any benefit in the Mcbernie loan, we still went down and Swansea got him in the shop window to ultimately make millions. They might be young players but at least we know that those who are good enough are going to contribute on and off the pitch to the long term future of my club.

 

The owners could have offered Davies a new contract, but chose not to. Could have offered new deals for Pinnock and Lindsay before the summer. they could have held out for more money, especially for Pinnock. But they didn't do any of that.

They have been here for 20 months now.

McBurnie nearly saved us from relegation. He was player of the year. If we'd stayed up we'd have had £6-7m extra from staying up and be playing at a higher level instead of a year in league 1. If that's not a good use of loans, I really don't know what is!

 

Point is Gally, we shouldn't be asking a 20 year-old to step up so quickly playing out of position and I don't think reasonable fans are blaming Sibbick himself but the fact that it's evidence we're underequipped and unprepared. There's a danger these young lads' confidence will take a hammering, regardless of how much backing the fans give them.

 

Who says he is playing out of position?

 

Stendel via Gally above, unless I'm misunderstanding it. "...when asked to play where he has"

 

Cheers for clarifying. He looks more comfortable and natural there to me.

 

Himself. Mate of mine asked him directly. And he said he was a CB not a RB

 

What did he ask him directly?

 

Whether he was a right back or not.