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  1. Farnham_Red

    Farnham_Red Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I think we can agree on one thing anyway that he is unfit to be a minister (or even an MP)
     
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    Jake The Red Banned Idiot

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    Johnson would know all about that.
     
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    Oh you were using statistical reasoning were you? You should have said [​IMG]

    Presumably that allows for various methodologies and informs a particular viewpoint when it comes to how you view sets of figures, but also allows for different ways of manipulating or interpreting data? Like most people I simply look at the numbers, and know that the 2016 figure is higher, but then I am just a dumb leave voter.

    You do understand don't you that 'to mandate' means to give someone the power/authority to act in a certain way, which is what more people did for leave in 2016 than did for stay in 1975, hence why 2016 is from any reasonable viewpoint the largest mandate. Ever.
     
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    Jake The Red Banned Idiot

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    Are you that dense?
     
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    A fine contribution.
     
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    It's the former, I'm stupid. I am a leave voter after all. Seriously though, you also need to look up what 'to mandate' means.

    Anyway you purport to be site admin do you not? Why haven't you done anything about tyketastic's 'fixed it for you' post about me from several pages ago? Or is it ok when it happens to certain posters? Maybe those with whose views you disagree? I jest of course as I couldn't give a flying f*ck, and I certainly wouldn't go bairning to admin about meaningless posts on a meaningless forum.
     
  7. Farnham_Red

    Farnham_Red Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    I know what to mandate means maybe you can explain to me why size of mandate inst related to proportion of votes cast.

    Which has the most wealth - a person with a house worth £1,000,000 and £1000cash in the bank and a mortgage of £900,000
    or the person with a house worth £990,000 £900 cash in the band and no mortgage
     
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    Farnham_Red Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    PS if you highlight the post you are unhappy about I can do something about it - but I dont read everything on here - which must be a big surprise to some
     
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    How do you get that? You need to put in your post code & email address & then verify it. This is a GOVERNMENT PETITION. Of course it is scrutinised. Your bot is full of *****.
     
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    John Peachy Well-Known Member

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    I've agreed with loads of posters for the other side of the argument, that have presented an argument for other than "we won" in a vote that was massively uninformed & unclear about what "leave" actually meant & won by less than 2% of the vote. More people than voted "leave" abstained, or were not on the electoral register for the vote (over 30 million, compared to the 17.4 million who "won") . As a "Remainer" I would have accepted a democratically passed leave vote in our democratically elected Parliament. Instead there are just some xenophobic idiots in charge now & we are right royally ******. THE END.
     
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    You must have been living under a rock for the past three years if you don't understand that the way the EU has approached our exit to date has been about punishing/demeaning us and making our situation post-exit as difficult as they can get away with, partly to send a message to all those other countries in the EU who will in due course follow the same exit path. They are not, and have never been, our friends. The (surrender) terms they clearly drew up (astonishingly with the apparent agreement of the godawful Mrs May and her team), and which (again astonishingly) May tried on three occasions to get through parliament, are evidence enough of this.

    Reality, firm negotiating, and deadlines tend to bring the grown ups to the table. We'll be fine providing our exit and the risks involved are managed properly by a competent Government apparatus. That will be the case whether or not we force the EU to come back to the table with a willingness to discuss an approach that benefits both sides rather than favours them and subjugates us. No deal is perfectly manageable, and indeed currently seems the only realistic outcome.
     
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    Like I said I couldn't give a monkey's what folk say on here, it's all utterly meaningless. Anyway the 'slur' is now my signature, so you'd have to delete all my posts too - tempting I'm sure.

    You have my thanks nonetheless.
     
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    2016 can’t be regarded as the first referendum though can it. They tell me referendum results are final and can’t be rerun.
     
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    I called him a child. Not I might add for any of his Brexit views, just the "Kiss my arras" response.
     
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    The referendum result was declared illegal but because it was advisory it couldn't be overturned. It was therefore illegal, however you wish to say otherwise.

    The rest of your diatribe is frankly just utter prejudiced rubbish and not worth replying to.
     
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    Utter twaddle.
     
  17. Dan

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    My first flask has gone cold ;-)
     
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    And when leading leavers predict the same you’re ignoring that too.
    It’s convenient for you to pretend it’s just remainders snd project fear; because you’d feel stupid following JRM and his ilk after he’s promised you 50 years to get the economy back to a pre Brexit state.

    Since the vote our economy has already lost more money than we pay to the EU. It’s not doom mongering, it’s already happening, but like all these things - until it’s your job that goes, it’s ‘not important’.
     
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    So just to be clear, are you saying that 10,000,001 votes out of a population of 100,000,000 would be a bigger mandate than 10,000,000 votes out of a population of 11,000,000?
     
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    I cannot believe you think just because more people voted for one than the other that it gave the "largest ever mandate", completely disregarding the margins involved. In that case, why do you think ruling parties call general elections when they already have more MPs than the opposition?

    You are just reinforcing preconceptions I and many others have about leave voters.
     
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