Poor Boris

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  1. churtonred

    churtonred Well-Known Member

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    Plato, Aristotle, Archimedes, Copernicus, Leonardo da Vinci, Galilieo,Pasteur, Eddison, Curie, err, err, err...…...again...lost for words.
     
    churtonred, Sep 3, 2019
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    As a question, wondering if the option of leave is still open, how it could take place and if the UK still has that option at all.

    You Misinterpreted.
     
    Barnsleyshaun, Sep 3, 2019
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    You implied the EU would hold us to ransom .
     
    Marlon, Sep 3, 2019
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    I am confused. If and when they vote down a 'no deal' Brexit and force Johnson to go to the EU for an extension, it is likely they say no unless we have a concrete proposal (which the current rebel alliance has not). Even if they - the EU - agree to an extension, all the leaders of all members states must agree. Surely Johnson as leader of the UK can veto the extension , in which case we leave anyway which is the current default position which is the written into law. Parliament simply voting we cannot have a no deal is surely not within their total control?
     
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    Oh my fu:cking god....I can't speak....where to fu:cking start!!!??
     
    Micky Finn, Sep 3, 2019
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    Even Hecky told him to fek off
     
    Marlon, Sep 3, 2019
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    No I didnt, I asked if the new law is put in place would it mean the EU would have to agree to a deal in order for us to leave.

    I don’t know, does it or does it not? I’m wondering when this mess will all end and trying to understand what the ongoing soap opera and happenings mean and where it sends us all next.
     
    Barnsleyshaun, Sep 3, 2019
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    It’s been a **** storm since Cameron put it into his manifesto .
    It’s been ill conceived badly expressed from beginning and add to that Farage and co thinking that we can leave and tel the EU to shove all those commitments and proposals of the last forty years without repercussions .’
    It’s gonna go on a long long time .
     
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    [QUOTE
    It’s gonna go on a long long time .[/QUOTE]

    This is what I was alluding to, if anything. I just can’t see how it ends, unless it’s all just packed in?
     
    Barnsleyshaun, Sep 3, 2019
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    Thou shall vote what thy father voted for. Period. Or thy are a traitor
     
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    This is what I was alluding to, if anything. I just can’t see how it ends, unless it’s all just packed in?[/QUOTE]
    Precedents are being set regularly no ones sure how or if it will end , imo a deal should be agreed cross party and put to the people in a binding vote with all options .
     
    Marlon, Sep 3, 2019
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    They’re not our friends either... not when it comes to negotiating things to favour us. And why should they? But we will have no choice.
     
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    So the prime minister kicks out MP’s who voted against the government, having spent his last 6 months voting against the previous PM.

    Across the floor the leader of the opposition has contempt for any labour MP who criticises him; having spent his entire career criticising every former leader of the party.

    We’re not led by donkeys, we’re led by would be tyrants.
     
    Donny-Red, Sep 3, 2019
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    Why wouldn’t they? Not hold us to ransom as such... but give on anything? They won’t have to....
     
    Austiniho, Sep 3, 2019
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    No current Parliament can bind a future Parliament. What that means is they can pass a law preventing Johnson carrying out no deal now, assuming that means an extension to article 50 then an election, as opposed to an election before 31st October.

    However, if Johnson was to win a majority in that election after 31st October Parliament could change the law again to allow no deal. That’s the whole point, Parliament is sovereign. As Oliver Letwin (I think) said tonight in the House, that’s where the problem comes - is a referendum result more ‘legitimage’ than Parliament? The answer is no but it was presented in 2016 as though it was.
     
    Knowlesy, Sep 3, 2019
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    Well try your best to find somewhere to start.
    It could be interesting this.
    As every issue you lob over the net I will bounce one straight back - and win the point.
     
    Young Nudger, Sep 3, 2019
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    Because they’re not our enemies , although some would like to think that .
     
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    The only way you won that last point was by ignoring the factual responses.
     
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    Precedents are being set regularly no ones sure how or if it will end , imo a deal should be agreed cross party and put to the people in a binding vote with all options .[/QUOTE]

    If only that utopia could be done though. The sides are so far apart, that agreements just won’t happen. That and the timescales involved, dragging the thing out even further.
     
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    If only that utopia could be done though. The sides are so far apart, that agreements just won’t happen. That and the timescales involved, dragging the thing out even further.[/QUOTE]
    As I said in an earlier post it’s been a **** storm from the very beginning .
     
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