No Deal Brexit

Didn’t Fox say it would be the easiest trade deal to negotiate in history? Or words to that effect.

 

Churton lives in the Republic. I think you are referring to the North. Religion plays little or no part in the Republic’s politics.

 

So their gay rights for homosexuals and abortion laws aren't years behind ours and driven by religion? The ROI is a catholic country and is governed as such

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...trade-deal-after-brexit-easiest-human-history

 

Has anyone else seen #Grabbag trending on Twitter with emergency services around the country all tweeting about what to include in one for an unspecified emergency?

For example:

 

look at the link to the guardian aticle, what fox said is that it SHOULD be easy, he then went onto say in reality it wont be

 

the following is a paragraph from your link

However, he went on to concede that securing a deal would probably not be easy in practice. “The only reason that we wouldn’t come to a free and open agreement is because politics gets in the way of economics,” Fox said.

 

So in reality he was saying he didn't have a clue as to how it would work out.

 

least of my concerns shenk, i show my passport at dover and calais, nowhere else so even after brexit i doubt anyone will be checking my passport as i go from , for example, belgium into germany
i've also driven outside the EU and never had a problem

 

I was meaning Ireland, not the North, Donny. Believe me, religious influence on the Republic has gone through the floor in the last 10 years.

 

yep, that politicians for you, its a bit like in 1975 when politicians asked us to vote to remain in a trading block, i doubt they knew it would morph into a political union,

 

I didn’t comment on it. Don’t @ me.

 

i was simply taking a paragraph from your link

whats the point of putting something on if you dont want to see any comments relating to it? very strange

 

Yes . but the fact that there are seamless borders makes it like that and that's thanks to the EU. Travelled on coaches in the 90's and the only time you had to get your passport checked was going through Switzerland. Having just the Euro is a bonus too....once went on a week to Austria and needed 5 different sets of currency due to the stop offs we would make.

 

Actually Donny Ireland was the first country in the world to legalise gay marriage by referendum rather than having it imposed by legislature.
Abortion laws are now changing slightly after the recent referendum.
Since the exposure of the shocking abuses by the Catholic church here Ireland is a totally different country to what it was 10 to 20 years ago.
In my day to day life I've barely even encountered a priest. Religion has no impact whatsoever on life in general unless you go and seek it out just as in the UK.
Unless you're talking about GAA which is like a religion here in Kerry. The county is awash with gold and green flags at the minute as we head for the All Ireland final replay.

 

i think the seamless borders were more for the mainland than us, i can never ever recall not having to show my passport when entering or leaving the uk,

my first road trip (motorbike) to europe was in 1987, france, belguim,italy, germany, switzerland, i managed then and i'll manage again if the euro ever goes t!ts up, having to show my passport is not a reason for me to want to stay in the eu

 

No. Old Gimmer asked if Liam Fox had made such a comment. I merely provided a link to one of the many articles on it. Your reply needed directing to Old Gimmer, not me.

Not strange in the slightest.

 

But being in the EU does make it like that. Imagine if it was back to when there were borders and they really existed between EU countries like they used to....holidays like yours ( and ours....I remember waiting to get into the Czech Republic) would be a pain. Then think what a lorry would have to do coming from .say, Italy with wine or pasta. All those stops and delays would cost time and money.

Any hold ups at the border will add cost to imports eventually no matter how you look at it as haulage companies will just factor extra man hours into their costs.

 

Us unilaterally coming out of the EU will not solve the things your arguing about dek .
All these things you’ve quoted are ingrained not just in UK but all these 27 other countries .
People thinking if we come out its all our problems solved and it just isn’t .
Life in the EU us just the same and only we will have to make adjustments nothing changes for them only us .
We’ll have to make 27 different arrangements in EU and renew every where else and it won’t be sorted in our lifetime .

 

Ah, I see, my appologies

Old gimmer should have read the thread a bit better tho because that link had already been posted