The best way to honour Jo Cox

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  1. Brush

    Brush Well-Known Member

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    My post was in no way an endorsement for the Lib Dem’s, I’ve never forgiven them for botching the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to ditch the first-past-the-post voting system. I am a member of The Green Party and anti-brexit not least because trading with the rest of the world instead of our near neighbors will result in an increase in carbon emissions just at the time we need to reduce them.
     
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    You've also quoted it, do you endorse it ?
     
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    I have a theory it was designed to goad the Prime Minister into a response that would go against him and it did and it has. If that hadn't happened the Conservatives might have got their recess.

    Everything that happens in Parliament at the minute perpetrated by both sides is part of a plan.
     
  4. Don

    Donny-Red Well-Known Member

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    So the person literally sitting in Jo Cox’s seats gets death threats but it’s ‘wrong’ to mention it?

    Just have a think about that for a second.
     
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    I was making the point that the media were trying to make out in their headlines that johnson mentioned jo cox out of the blue, he didn,t.Make no mistake all yesterday was about was pathetic childish points scoring on both sides, it was an embarrassment..
     
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    Today's been just as embarrassing.
     
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    Sorry can't agree with that. If it were any other politicians of either side then perhaps, but I find it hard to believe that her close friends would use this as a means to points score.

    Your opinion though proves my earlier point that in hindsight perhaps they shouldn't have brought her name up, as people are now questioning their motives.
     
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    If that’s what you believe then the media did their job brilliantly.
    What’s happening is an actual constitutional crisis and you’re left thinking it’s something about Boris being misquoted - and that ‘they’re all as bad’.
     
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    Exactly correct. He repeated the words of someone else. You realise that quoting someone is not the same as saying something yourself don’t you? I could quote the bible it doesn’t mean it’s my view it I endorse it. When asked to apologise he actually said that they need to ask the people who said it to apologise.
     
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    I haven't seen anything reported that suggests Boris Johnson mentioned Jo Cox 'out of the blue'.

    I've seen him condemned for ridiculing a fellow MP in his response to her pleas for toned down language in the House of Commons. I've also seen him condemned for suggesting that the best thing to do to honour Jo Cox is to get Brexit done - when she was a hardened remainer. No headline has been scribed in a way to suggest Boris just decided randomly to mention Jo Cox.

    And the MP for Dewsbury was more than entitled to ask the question that she did, and she asked it in a friendly and passionate manner. As always, Boris didn't answer the questions. Just as today, where the Cabinet Minster stand-in didn't actually answer any questions. Talk about a hospital pass from the Prime Minister.
     
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    He’s lost any semblance of a statesman as far as I’m concerned not that I ever thought he had any . Any statesperson worth their salt would have been able to give an effective answer without causing the furore he has .
    Although it doesn’t apply to them all the nastier side of the argument is definitely leave without a deal .
    When Katie Hopkins and Yaxley Lennon are cheerleading him .
    And just to clarify what his words mean to some have a read at this .

    https://apple.news/AYkdp8saQSWK8vJjc9jJYpw
     
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    I saw the news and radio, it was all over the BBC website too. Brabin made a justified point about Johnson's use of language, citing what happened to Cox as an example of possible consequences. Johnson chose to say it was 'humbug' and then spoke on behalf of a dead woman he didn't know.

    He's a classless oaf.
     
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    It was tragic and disgusting listening to the BBC toiling away with its 'balanced' commentary in saying "both sides have said bad things" with no attempt at moral equivalence. This method of journalism works OK when you have two positions arguing against each other in a reasonable, adult fashion. But when you have one side with power and legitimacy (Johnson and the Attorney General) spouting inflammatory comments after they'd just been found guilty by the highest court in the land, and another defending itself against that attack in much more reserved fashion, then the notion of being even handed look like the pathetic shower of ***** it is.
     
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    Looking forward to the Channel 4 news, usually a better quality of reportage in my opinion.
     
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    He also didn’t refuse to condemn it merely said that they should ask the people who actually said it.
     
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    There's a simple solution to the mess the BBC have got themselves in to on impartiality. They should of course give a voice to both sides of the argument, but it should be proportionate to the weight of opinion on that view.

    So if they have a scientist on who denies climate change is human made then they should have the equivalent number on who contend that it is. Same with anti-vaxxers. If you have 1 anti-vaxxer on then you need 99 on who say it's safe.

    This should have happened proportionately with economists on the impact of Brexit too.

    Instead they give disproportionate time to lone voices.
     
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    I've just seen a video of Dominic Cummings being confronted by MP Karl Turner. If you want to see an outrageous reaction, watch the video. You'll have to google it I'm afraid, I don't know how to link it.
     
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    It certainly didn’t, Marlon! Anyone who takes the time to open your attachment up & read it, must find it chilling! It is the language of hate! We are living in truly dangerous times - after reading this article, no one should be trying to justify Boris Johnson’s tone & language (unless, of course, you’re as hate filled as Katie Hopkins or Tommy Yaxley-Lennon or is it Dtephen Robinson?)
     
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    Indeed!
     
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    appalling and worrying things happening in Parliament.

    This is what happens when the Democratic processes are ignored/ broken by our representatives.

    And whose fault is this?
     

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