Explain the blame.

Please.

Simply

To be a sustainable business and abide by FFP, what income we bring in through crowds,merchandise, transfer sales and sponsorship should be / can be / is being used to pay for players transfers, wages, academy, club running costs etc.

If we bring more money in we can spend more money. Bigger crowds, transfer sales, better sponsorship.

Are the new owners doing that and thats why we have a squad not up to the championship standard or are they banking profit for their own gain?

New signings take time to come good, look at Hourihane ,Mawson, Pinnock and some just dont even come good Alex Ferguson is testament to that.

To improve over a short period can this be done by following the plan of spending within our means or do we expect our owners to spend their own money and have us running as a club in debt to pay the bigger wages, transfer fees ?

Are we in a position to match wages with Brentford, Stoke and Wigan? Are these clubs in debt or making an overall profit? Two of them recently Premiership sides.

My view is bring in a few experienced players within budget if possible and scrap like hell to stay up then improve a bit year on year. As Barnsley fans we should be proud of this not abusing Woodrow and the owners when we dont know exactly the circumstances.

 

We came up with Luton and Charlton.. we only have to look this far for the club's miss management to be glaringly obvious...

 

We should be able to match or compete with Wigan.

As said look at Charlton and Luton and their recruitment and playing squad.

 

I'd add Preston too JT.. no bigger than us just run better.
Luton and Charlton have at the very least given themselves every chance of staying more than one season at Championship level. Where we clearly have not..

 

And QPR.

 

If we can't compete at this level then i don't want to watch anymore.

 

We went for quantity over quality, how many attacking midfielders/ wingers have we got that don't have any guile or a good cross in em? We've probably got 7or8 players for 3 spots in the side and it doesn't seem to make any difference which 3 you play.

 

Preston also have a Billionaire owner who has put £36 million interest free loans into the club over recent years.
It’s believed that he is putting between 5-7 million a season including £4 million for signings last January.

 

All of the players that 'come good' are doing it at league one level, and it's looking like our current crop of new signings are going to have the opportunity to do so, and when they do we'll sell them and start again.

I don't agree that we should put up with any old rubbish for now because it'll be better later. That's not acceptable.

Yes it's a business, but you have to have a bit of pride in the product. These guys have none.

 

I mentioned something along these lines a few seasons back, and a Preston fan came on and disagreed. Dunno who's right or wrong.

 

One thing I'll say about us and Preston. If we had their players and league position, and any chance of playoffs at the end of the season, I'm sure our gates would be bigger than what they had yesterday.

 

At some point over the international break, I intend to read the in-depth financial analysis done by @Red Rain . I dont know if that will make the position any clearer. The only thing I know for sure is that money is slowly killing the game, whether it be TV rights or multi-millionaires with nothing better to do with their cash. The idea of a level playing field is now so far away as to be almost a ridiculous concept.

 

Big question is, if there's nothing in it for the owners and must abandon all hope of improvement, why are they here? Why should we bother?

 

Dunno, M8, info came from here
https://www.fromthefinney.co.uk/analysis/a-dive-into-preston-north-ends-finances/

 

You’ll need longer than the international break to get through that!

 

I'd have taken any of them if based on their time with us. Not so much Bree, but the other two to be part of the spine of the team.

 

I tend to agree with that opinion ,
They aren’t even doing the basics right ,Trapping the ball seems alien ,passing to a red shirt is almost impossible to some of them .
Yes they are a young side but there’s just no excuse for the basics which will have been instilled from a young age.
We can argue about tactics and being old manned etc etc but there just no excuse to being shoved off the ball so easy or the basics .

 

Does that comply with the 'fair play on finance' rules which limits the players wage bill to 60% of the business turnover? The reason BFC has the policy of signing youngsters is that players under 21 are not included in the players wage bill. This means we should be buying better quality young players on higher wages.

 

Agreed. They way Johnston ran about unchallenged all afternoon had me out of my seat at one point. Sometimes it's Sunday league.