I dont understand the British Voters

Then let me clarify. The poor will always be here and a fair society should help those in need, but those who wont help themselves shouldn't get help they dont deserve. Immigration is fine as long as its controlled by out government not the eu. As for Corbyn he has undeniable links to anti British terrorist groups and I won’t vote for the party whilst ever he heads it. That ok ?

 

Just out of interest, in case you are thinking of voting:

Tory - have a former IRA member as a councillor (Maria Gatland - Croydon)
Brexit Party - have an MEP that defended the IRA bombers in Warrington (and is also a Revolutionary Communist - Claire Fox (North West)).

So you can't be voting for those either...

And as for immigration, Barnsley has one of the lowest rates of immigration in the UK.

 

If you don’t think it’s about race then Obviously you’ve missed the numerous news reports especially in our own town where people were openly stating that black and Asian people would be stopped coming after Brexit.
As for Corbyn being a Terrorist I think it you that’s insulting our intelligence services that would let him be an MP never mind not convicting him .
He was an integral part of the peace process , deplored violence of any kind .
You are rightly challenged by posters on your views because they are wrong and openly quote the right wing mantra.

 

I’ve already posted Scoff that I won’t be voting at all. Immigration is a national issue not just a local one.

 

Ramp what up? The Brexit policy is beyond lunacy and so convoluted

 

Do you not think though that as a town which voted for the BNP the media always shows those who portray the town as knuckle dragging racists, they never interview anyone who comes across as overly bright do they. Now if the media can portray Corbyn in a certain light (as you claim )to support their agenda, is it unreasonable to imagine that they do the same when interviewing folk in our town ? You don’t see them interviewing anyone who’s just left Barnsley College do you ? On Corbyn I’ve never said he was a terrorist, but here’s a man who gets arrested at a protest against their sentences, and attends memorials for their dead. Doesnt sit well with me but if you want to dismiss it thats up to you Marlon

 

There were actual terrorists sitting in the NI assembly on both sides but the people put the past behind them for the sake of the peace process .
The people seen quoted on TV is a popular view in our Town and beyond ,being dismissed as knuckle draggers is the easy option .
Imo they are bombarded with this notion from the media and or misinformed
Food at this very minute is being ploughed back into our countryside because the migrants they usually hire won’t come because of the hostile rhetoric from some of our media and political commentators Farage etc.
The Tories and it’s puppet media will then turn their attebtion back to blaming it on labour run councils whilst they siphon their budget for their rich friends tax cuts

 

His campaigning you pillock.

 

Ah, I see you skipped charm school this morning. So he's going to ramp up campaigning to ignore Brexit... again? Sounds winning!

 

The MP for Lincoln (Labour) got slaughtered on local social media for saying she will vote on Brexit for what she thinks is right not what Lincoln voted for.
And I have to say having dealt with her and the previous Conservative MP, she had done a lot more for local people and issues than he did in all his time.

 

I've got to say, the amount of bots and campaigners and agitators pretending to be real people makes me disbelieve a lot of things in the social media realm. At times 2019 feels worse than the dystopian futures you see in scifi! Have you seen the technology that can mimic an individual and make them sound and look like the real thing? Frightening!

 

Unfortunately I knew a lot of the people in this instance. I was just highlighting an example of a MP who has massively risked their position as Lincoln tends to swing between the two parties and as a City that voted heavily for Brexit she will have done herself no favours.
Most of the good work she has done is helping local people resolve local issues that don’t gain headlines where the previous incumbent was more interested in headline claiming.

 

No, it put us in a much worse place to deal with it. Obviously you are happy with him pishing that public money up the wall?

 

Technically he didn't pish anything anywhere. He generated proceeds from assets just sitting there doing nothing. I'm sure you were even more disappointed when Osborne sold off Royal Mail below par and his best man benefitted hugely into the realm of £35-50m? Or that Lloyds banking groups public share was sold off below par before netting any positive returns for the tax payer?

Or we could look at the losses incurred by failing Grayling which amount to approximately £3bn and rising. Or maybe the hundreds of millions Johnson spaffed on a crony garden bridge, routemasters that nobody wanted and selling off protected land to his mates at the side of the Mayors offices.

Selling a bit of gold in contrast seems positively good value, don't you think? And seeing as this seems to be the sole thing aimed at him as chancellor, he must have done a pretty decent job during 10 years of continual growth.

 

Exactly why labour won’t get in.... its all wrong! just because somebody else did something wrong does not excuse it. It’s like children trying to excuse their poor behaviour by saying, “well she did it first”.

He didn’t generate assets from “a bit of gold” he undersold one of the largest reserves in the world, thereby giving us a whole load more to deal with in the crash.

 

He cashed in assets at a time he needed to. Why we've even got gold, wine and art sat doing nothing while they gather dust is beyond me in the first place. In the context of our GDP, in the context of the global crash, in the context of other chancellors and there actions... it's completely insignificant. Gold appreciated there after. He wasn't a mind reader, but he crystallised a hidden asset doing nothing for anyone. I've no issue with all gold being sold off. Its pointless. Does having lots of gold in some dark cellars improve the livlihoods of the nation? Does it create jobs? Improve services and living standards? Create opportunity, reward entrepreneurs? No.

My latter point of whataboutery was to suggest you might want to be appalled at the other activities of other chancellors and governments that incurred and crystallised losses way in excess of a bit of gold.

And I disagree, Labour won't get in because of their ridiculous Brexit stance.

 

Whilst we disagree on the country having public assets or at least realising them to a correct value. And the fact that it wasn’t a “bit of gold”

We do agree that we should appalled at countless chancellors and Governments. I got your point, but it’s always the type of excuse that is put forward for crap behaviour by politicians.

I take your point on Labour not getting in but in my humble opinion, it will be because Jeremy Corbyn is seen as a deluded idealist with no substance. So I suppose we kind of agree on that too.

 

Neither have the Tories. They are just going to get a lot of voters that would traditionally would vote for other parties that are just going to vote Tory just to “get Brexit done” then be left with government for another 5 years that will just continually **** on then as the Tories have done forever whilst continuing to run the NHS into the ground etc, but hey Blue Passports and all that.

 

So you’re saying the tories do have a clear message to get brexit done? And therefore agree with him. If only labour had a clear policy and leader, we may even get a labour Govt.