To have another referendum instead of a G E. And maybe top civil servants setting out the pros and cons of no deal, remain May's deal Johnson's deal etc Strikes me that a G E shouldn't just be about Brexit but it inevitably will.be.
A ratifying referendum is the most sensible thing many can imagine. But it hasn't been able to get through the commons as any amendment has been blocked or its been heavily whipped against by the tories and labour rebels have blocked it too. I'd rather a referendum, but I can see that this is really last chance saloon time and only a GE has a chance of changing the dynamic. I'm not sure when push comes to shove if anything will be better than it is now. It could be much much worse.
It couldn't stay the same because there would be say 3 Brexit deals including no deal and just I remain ( if the EU will let us change our mibds) to vote on.
Johnson corbyn junker tusk merkle farage macron the shouty libdem arlene foster in a table ladders and chairs wrestling death match.
If DUP are considered Liberal..... jesus we've slid further right than has ever been seen before! ;-)
I agree that punctuation would have been helpful but if you parse that to include "Libdem Arlene Foster" does that mean in your reading of it she's preceded by "macron the shouty"?
What worries me (even though I don't live here any more) is that Barnsley will get a Brexit Party MP. Depending on how Parliament looks after the election, there may be 1 or 2 votes on Johnson's Brexit deal and then Barnsley is stuck with a Brexit Party MP for FIVE YEARS. No matter what side of the Brexit debate you are on, this should not be solved via a General Election that will impact on policies across every single aspect of life for the next 5 years.
You can guarantee that if Johnson got any sort of majority, they wouldn't then repeal the fixed term parliament act as it would suddenly suit them to be in power longer.
In the event of a referendum that produced a remain vote then we have the right to unilaterally withdraw notice under article 50 before 31 January. There would be no further negotiation, the whole thing would be put back in it's box and we would continue on our existing terms. Sounds quite appealing, so far as I can see.
Yes it’s too simplistic , we had that vote and democracy being what it is we should abide by the result
We did but most werent aware that if we left without negotiating with the EU it put the NHS at risk for example. What should have happened after the vote was for the pro brexit members of all parties to work together to negociate the best deal. We did have the vote but people assumed
When the vote was based on a misrepresentation of what would happen? Sorry, but that's not democracy.
If there is a Losers Vote then unless there are 16.1 + 17.4 voters and and the result is exactly the same as last time ...... owt other than that will result in the total demise of British democracy (of all the countries in the world) which would certainly end up with rioting on our streets. Democracy depends on one thing - IMPLEMENTATION !!! Without implementing a democratic result then we have NOT got democracy.
Sort of like when a writer of a drama/soap opera runs out of ideas with a plot line, don't know how to get out of the mess they've created, so just turn it into a dream and wake up from the nightmare. Sounds perfect. Lets a do a Bobby Ewing!
We didn't have a democratic result in 2016. We had an illegal referendum that wasn't quashed, purely because it was deemed "advisory"
