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  1. Tarntyke

    Tarntyke Well-Known Member

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    Yep, no problem with it, wish we could, fed- up of being ruled by a Tory Govt, that has nothing but aggressive and vindictive policies towards our Town and the likes. At least Turkeys voting for Christmas will take place close to the festive period this time.
     
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    portsmouth tyke Well-Known Member

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    Likewise Donald Trump, always refer to him as Trump, regardless whether you like him or not its poor journalism IMO
     
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    Old Gimmer Well-Known Member

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    What an insightful view of Irish history. Not. The Irish are overwhelmingly positive about the EU. If only because the English (or the right wing Anglo -Saxon faction) are so anti.
     
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    Old Gimmer Well-Known Member

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    You were doing quite well there until the last sentence. Pity.
     
  5. Red

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    If the UK has left the EU before a Scottish Independence Referendum is held it means that Scotland is not part of the EU at the time of the Scottish Referendum.
    If the majority do vote for Independence there will then presumably be another Referendum in Scotland asking the question whether Scotland should apply for EU membership. If the majority vote to apply to join the EU then the 26 countries of the EU will have to accept Scotland if certain criteria are met. Whilst waiting for things to be ratified Scotland will be in a state of limbo.
    (IAN, I'm not trying to score political points here - just pointing out that the whole Independence question is a complicated one!)
     
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    TbilisiTyke Well-Known Member

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    Maybe it’s time for Yorxit!
     
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    I could become very complicated mate. Don't think anyone has ever said any different. The difficult bit could be achieving independence in the first place. Can't see too many problems in joining the EU. Scotland has much to offer.
     
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    On yer tyke Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for your feedback. Noted.
     
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    You jest but this is the great prize when Scotland and N Ireland have chosen a different path to the UK.

    Regardless of which party is in power, the North of England always gets a crappy deal. We live in a Country that has a greater centralising tendency than Russia. Our local (and some National) politicians are falling over themselves to beg for devolution deals from our masters In Westminster which are frankly, pathetic.

    The North of England cannot compete with England’s institutional bias towards the South East and London. Wether that is financial, cultural, political, economic etc etc and we find ourselves on our knees begging to decide when our bins are emptied rather than the decision being taken by Eric Pickles or his successors.

    The break up of the UK (and don’t doubt it is coming) DOES provide an opportunity to ‘take back control ‘ . Not from the EU - that was always a load of guff, but from Westminster.

    The proposition becomes a simple one. Give us proper devolution, within an England context, so that we can take the decisions that affect our lives and the futures of our Children and Grandchildren, OR, we’ll go the same way as Ireland and Scotland (and we’re a lot bigger both in economic and population terms).

    The sadness, is that it has taken Brexit to even get people in the North thinking about these things, and I suspect many will still want to remain on their knees - doffing their (cloth) caps to our political betters.

    Rant over.
     
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    Well written.

    I've still not come to understand how I can see someone shouting “ we are taking back control” and in the next breath “ all MP’s are rubbish”

    how are they taking control, and who are they happy abusing and using that control! it’s almost as if they haven’t quite thought it out.......
     
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    This is why we are stuck with Sheffield City Region and the Tories resist 'One Yorkshire'. They are scared ****less of a Yorkshire devolution. And even more so of losing the tax revenues flowing from Yorkshire Tea.
     
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    Weather is not too bad on the East Coast. I spent a week in Anstruther last year (up in Fife to do DJ gigs), one of the coolest places I've been in a long time, other than Lisbon, which was also excellent.
     
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    I for one would be very sad to see Scotland leave the UK, but also happy that they have the independence they wish for and hope they have a prosperous future ahead of the.

    It's very doubtful that the UK would have had it's glorious history with Scotland - Scottish engineers, scientists and military leaders were at the forefront of Empire, the Industrial Revolution and keeping Napoleon from our door. Scottish Regiments were part of all of Wellingtons victories, the thin red line in the Crimea, the Somme and Normandy. Nothing scared the fuzzy wuzzies more than the sight of men in skirts :)
     
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