Zonal marking is gonna relegate us

I hope either Murray changes it to man marking or we get a new guy who doesn't do zonal. Every goal we concede is embarrassing.

 

A am sceptical about sticking with it, but what will relegate us is lack of quality at both ends of the field.

 

Whatever system we employ, individuals have to do their jobs. At the moment, there’re not - see Friday.

And while we’ on the subject, for a few seasons now we’ve been dreadful at stopping crosses being delivered into the box. Full backs and others consistently stand off and allow the ball into the box. Not the way you defend.

 

Having players less good than the opposition is going to relegate us.

Its not their fault however so let’s not pick holes.

 

We dont look great at zonal marking but bristol city showed us how not to man mark for halmes goal

 

I’m at a loss with this Zonal marking tbh.
I may be being naive but if a defender has a zone to Mark all the opposition has to do is send two players into that zone then the defender is foooked.
As I said I’m naive on the tactic go gentle with me .

 

Zonal marking is garbage if the blockers don't block according to some bod on the radio I think if we persist in it the season we will concede 100+ goals cos our lads Carnt do it and if Murray don't see that we need someone in who can,.cos we Carnt change the squad uet

 

I was questioning the benefits of zonal marking myself and wondered what the perceived benefits were. I stumbled across this: https://bleacherreport.com/articles...rguments-for-both-defensive-approaches#slide4

I'm still a fan of man marking, especially in our position with the players we have.

 

There was no marking the zone where the danger was for the first goal on Friday....just bad, naïve defending. To me, you need to do both and where a team has an obvious threat or threats, you make it difficult for that player or players to get a run at the ball.

 

As I understand it, and I am by no means qualified to give this explanation, Zonal Marking works like this.

You station your tall players into the zone where the ball is statistically most likely to be delivered. However, if one of the opposition gets a run at the ball, it is more than likely that he will take off first and get higher than the stationery defender. Therefore the second element to the plan is that other defenders are detailed to block the runs of the opposition's aerial threats. This means that they can never time their runs properly.

What went wrong for the first goal was that no-one blocked the run of the goal scorer and because of that, he was head and shoulders above anyone else. It was the blocker who did not do his job, and not the players marking space. I saw the finger pointed at Cavare, but frankly there was no-one anywhere near the scorer, so I am not sure how you tell who was at fault.

 

Look who was closest when he started his run. .
It was Cavare. All the others were blocking runs .

 

Cavares feet never left the floor either left, right, backwards or forwards. So I summise his zone was the same size as 2 sized 10's?

 

He has been implicated in a few goals conceded this season. In that he is in good company though.

 

It does look suspicious, I'll grant you that. Cavare seems to be incapable of concentrating on his job for long periods. There is always at least one slip up in every game. However, other parts of his game are very good, and he has undoubtedly created goals as well through his strength, power and pace. He is very frustrating, but I still believe he is worth persevering with.

 

He also switched off for Hudds first goal ,
Don’t want to make him a lone scapegoat for the teams failure but I’d take him out of defence and maybe play him wide midfield come winger .
That’s only my opinion of course but no doubt there’s a player there and when he’s flying at defences they do seem to brick it a bit .

 

I did not go to Huddersfield, but it looked from the recordings as though Sibbick was even more culpable for his inability to stop the cross. I do not like commenting on games that I have not been to because you do not know what the players were doing in the build up to a goal. I mean, for all I know, Cavare had been supporting an attack and had been unable to recover his position because of a rapid counter.

 

Halme was also blocking no ones run if I remember right and I dont think Jacob brown was.doing much either I also think pointing the finger for the 1st goal for one player isnt right.

 

Best thing about MFM for me is if it’s done right it should at least stop a clear run on goal if you get beaten on speed or in the air that’s another thing but it should at least make it harder for the opposition than it is now.

 

You can't legislate for silly individual mistakes and failing to follow a procedure. I don't have a problem with the system but both of Bristol City's goals on Friday were just basic errors and I doubt they will be given many easier goals all season. Unfortunately we have a number of these mistakes in us every single match and are almost always punished.
Until we cut down on the number of errors/silly mistakes we won't win many games.

 

As far as I remember the Dutch introduced it in the 70's. In recent times it has been the predominant style in the higher echelons of the game. Not sure whether it is working for us or not. Errors are errors. I'd like players on the posts myself, but Hecky & Stendel didn't do this either. Obviously by doing this you are playing everyone on side.