Corbyn - a positive thread ???

Many political thread and hundreds of (repetitive) postings - almost all criticising Tories - what's the point of them - they're doing nothing to support JC.
(quoting Gove Rees-Mogg etc etc is a waste of time.)

Come on Marlon - Pompey Red et al start a positive thread where myself and other Labour supporters can be positive about Jeremy Corbyn without reference to the Tories.

 

for the third time of posting on here. but you know.. he wore a crap coat once and that matters apparently. its not worth my time.


I don't think Corbyn's the best leader ever. I appreciate that he's not the best at appealing to a lot of demographics. he's crap with soundbites; not good at speaking straight to camera. Better in real situations with real people. I appreciate that he's not got a great deal of, what would you call it, zing. I don't agree with him on everything by any means.

Still, you know something I know? If Labour lose the election, Jeremy Corbyn will probably go back to being a local MP. He'll carry on holding speakers up for people at meetings, and helping people with their chairs, and thanking people for making the sandwiches. He'll carry on having talks and doing constituency surgeries and attending debates and asking questions and campaigning on various issues and staying behind to carry on talking about stuff with ordinary people after the event's finished. If he weren't the leader now, he'd be campaigning on behalf of the party. He'd be standing at the back helping.

He's not going to swan off to a career of after-dinner speaking and corporate events and non-executive directorships and consultancies. He's not going to edit the Evening Standard. It's not his personal ambition that's brought him here.

he wasn't ever that keen on being a leader. The only reason he stood when he did was that, to paraphrase another Labour front-bencher, every other remaining left-wing MP in the party had already stood as the token socialist candidate in a previous leadership election, and it was basically his turn.

And here's the thing: his apparent lack of charisma notwithstanding (and what is this charisma that apparently Tim Farron and Theresa May possess? It's like nothing I've ever seen described using that term before), he's the exact opposite of what everyone seems to agree they're sick of in politicians. The meaningless soundbites and stock phrases and glib dog-whistle oversimplifications don't sit naturally with him. He's better at sitting down calmly and talking about things like a grown-up. He's visibly irritated when interviewers push him to answer stupid, meaningless or leading questions, and, to me, that irritation seems remarkably restrained considering that I'd probably be unable to put up with such ******** without flying into an expletive-laden rant. He reminds me of a Scandinavian politician, and that's nothing but a compliment. Politicians aren't supposed to be evangelists or salespeople; they're supposed to be people of substance, not just a mass of superficially appealing tics, right? Right?

In short, he's a real human person, like you get in real life, not whatever kind of thing most politicians are where you just cannot imagine them existing in any normal situation alongside real people without getting punched in the face. I've seen people like him, working in various capacities, usually doing something socially responsible, sometimes voluntary. They help. They support. They sympathise. They don't usually get to the top of organisations because they're not naturally competitive. And here he is, in a position he probably never expected to be in, and his expression is, for me, the right one: he's grim; a touch uncertain; perhaps somewhat daunted. Quite right too. Anyone who's not daunted by the prospect of being Prime Minister shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the job. I want whoever leads the country to feel the responsibility as keenly as possible. The Prime Minister is the servant of millions of masters, not the master of millions of servants, as Boris Johnson seems to think he is. It's a horrible job, but if nobody else is going to do it, he'll have to. Because someone's got to. You can't just stand there and do nothing. You have to try to help; to do what you can. That's what he's like. And if the election's lost as the last two were, he'll go back to helping in whatever other ways are available. And if he loses his seat (which he won't), he'll go and try to help somewhere else.

The fact that this man is considered unelectable when the alternatives are as they are is itself an indictment of our society.

 

I wholeheartedly agree. Red on Blue and vice versa is just another form of sport now. But it just breeds more hate and contempt. I can understand why that may be for some people. But its pretty dispiriting.

The best outcome at this election is that the biggest two parties get shaved of their votes and the HoC has a wider representation that means a more harmonised way has to try and be found. I'm not sure it will, but that's what I'm hoping for.

 

One of my pet hates with modern day party politics..

Labour seemed to shift this way especially during the Milliband era. All I could hear from Labour is complaining about things the Tories were doing or their policies. What they should be doing is just putting more effort into promoting their own policies.

Rather than trying to win back voters or grab the undecideds by way of criticism or calling them Tories (without substance) etc.. Win these people back, including me through a positive message and promotion of policies.

 

I notice the twitter handle @toryfibs.... is that a leak of their actual manifesto commitments? I wasn't aware that they had officially launched their manifesto as yet

 

Tweeted by a Labour supporter and originally posted on here by Dreamboy3000.

 

Ok, so its not official.

 

Doesn't stop the press and Tories from criticising it

 

is there anything positive about Corbyn

 

oooooh lets not,can't we have a politics free zone until say the beginning of December instead?

 

Whoever gets in waint do foooook all for me or thee, LIES, LIES, LIES, but first thing that will happen wiart a shadow of doubt is, they'll all get a fooookin pay rise. Watch this space.

 

You don't think wanting to hold ultra-rich corporate and individual tax avoiders to account, whose actions directly contribute to the suffering of the working class, is a positive?

 

Quite frankly Jeremy Corbyn aligns with my ideals and principles far more than any other labour leader ever has. As for whether he can deliver those ideas I for 1 am prepared to give him the chance. It will be a long process and will not be delivered over night. As for Winker. A country cannot run itself so who do you suggest does. Perhaps a dictatorship. then you’ll know where you stand.

 

Most of the above is a load of tripe. All election ********

 

Oh, fair enough.....I will bow to your superior knowledge and delete my post

 

He's the leader of a Party who don't want to take money away from disabled people?

 

He champions the NHS.

 

PR - well done!

 

He'll be sacked by Christmas ?