Bristol Diesel Ban

Here you go.

 

The planet is fine right now. It's been through much more dramatic changes than this. I agree we as a species are making it uninhabitable for ourselves.
Just been a little pedantic, I've always thought save the planet is very much the wrong expression.
Maybe save the ecosystem?

 

I agree with the sentiment but the are two issues.
One, you can't really ban something when the replacement isn't fit for purpose and electric cars are certainly not fit for purpose yet. Batteries don't last long enough before an entire new battery needs manufacturing and replacing and on a daily basis they don't last long enough on a charge plus there are nowhere near enough charging points to accommodate the increased number of vehicles that would be needed. Remember if you don't have a private driveway you can't charge your car at home.

The second big big problem is how much pollution they cause just making the things (not including the battery that needs replacing regularly) and how much pollution is created generating the electricity to power them.

I think we are going in completely the wrong direction pushing electric cars, the technology just isn't good enough for the purpose. I'll lay my cards on the line now and tell you that by the time it's good enough to create a long lasting vehicle with a high enough range that can be charged at a reasonable speed without causing too much p

But are electric vehicles any less polluting in the long run?

 

human beings are a cancer on the eco system. One day in the non too distant future we will go and equilibrium will be restored. It’s not happy or sad just life. No

 

As people have said the alternative isnt good enough at the moment to consider change..... As someone who does a 400 mile round trip weekly for work i dont think its feasible to go fully electric at the moment. What about the aeroplanes and private jets??

 

I think a lot of people are missing the point. This is not about "saving the planet" directly, it is about air pollution in big cities. At 80k deaths attributed to air pollution each year, this is just behind smoking as one of the biggest causes of deaths in the UK. I posted a link further up this thread.

 

We should also ban smoking and drinking then if we are trying to save lives.

 

Smoking is banned pretty much everywhere isn't?

 

Just in indoor places of employment...

 

Technically banned at Oakwell, although people are allowed a *** round the side of the East Lower.

 

IANAL, but I *think* that Oakwell counts as enclosed - like Railway Stations and Bus Stations and other similar places.

Banning tobacco within a football ground also comes from UEFA (although some grounds have also banned e-cigs)

 

Silly Billy. Everyone knows cows don't fart. Ask a bull or steer.

 

I've not got a problem with your OP, was trying to post some kind of counter point regarding the fact that all big cities are going to have to take some action.

A reasonable charge for high polluting vehicles is the way forward. If you only have to go into a city for a one off job you will pay it, a bit like the congestion charge, if it is a daily commute you will have to change your vehicle or how you travel, e.g park & ride schemes, which will make a massive impact very quickly on pollution.
Any change like this is going to be difficult, it does have to be introduced in a fair way & from what you posted the Bristol proposal seems a bit drastic & I think a lot of things will be rowed back on after complaints. The council will be answerable at future local elections after all.

 

I’d like to think myself and my family are as eco friendly as practicable with the odd lapse however I can’t afford to buy a new electric vehicle to get to site or all over to private jobs with the increasing number of power tools and materials I have to cart. I can’t take public transport for the reasons stated plus I wouldn’t reach the places I have to get to. I got a diesel van as at the time it was most practical and economical option at the time. When an electric option becomes available in my circumstances I will seriously look at it, until then it looks like I’ll continue to look like I don’t give a **** from afar.