....Johnson DOES move the Cons to the centre as he has promised throughout the election and the cabinet he chooses delivers on the NHS promises, negotiates trade deal with the NHS/ROTW and invests in the country as a whole rather than being elitist London centric, how many on here will actually acknowledge that the ranting about "The bufoon" will admit they were wrong? I admit to not being too confident that will happen- but I am certain that had Labour won, the economy would have spiralled out of control as their alleged costings did not account for the capital flight that would have occurred. I have always believed that to have a strong Welfare state and NHS you need a strong economy, something the Cons manage. Their failure has always been sharing the wealth with ALL the wealth creators i.e. the workers. Only time will tell!
It would be welcome Tekky, but he can do what he likes with the majority he's getting. And unless Labour change tack he's already home and dry in 2024!
Like I said I HOPE he is true to his word. Given his track record I am not too hopeful but I will wait to see what Brexit and the new Govt brings. As I said unlike yourself and many on here I dreaded a hung parliament or a Labour Govt but we will find out soon enough who was right and who was wrong.
I would suggest he's home and dry in 2024 already. Best case scenario for Labour would be largest party in a hung parliament. They would have to turn around an inconceivable number of seats to win a majority. The only possible way that could remotely happen is for them to return back to the centre, where the majority of the country are. And that ain't happening any time soon. Alistair Campbell made a startling point on the BBC earlier this morning. By the time this government comes to an end in 2024, it will be 50 years since a Labour leader won an election other than Tony Blair, sat on the centre line. This country will not vote for what it perceives to be extreme. People on the left will argue that compared to other European countries, it is not extreme. But we are not France. We are as a nation, small 'c' conservative.
Me too. Interesting points made in the commentary tonight that he has the room now to be more centrist because he no longer needs to rely on the ERG wing of the party. He would be an idiot to not attempt to deliver on his promises to the people who have voted for him for the first time. Because if he doesn't, they may not vote for him again.
If you seriously think he gives a toss then you need your head examining. He's got all he wants for Christmas handed to him on a silver platter without having to do any work for it. As long as he has the title PM then hes filled his divine right to rule, people are an inconvenience to him.
I examined my head thanks. It's still on my shoulders. I think we have to wait to see as he has continuously confounded people who said throughout his career he couldn't or wouldn't do certain things and he went on to do them. I always consider it dangerous to judge people unless I have personally met them. For me the jury is out and his future actions speak far louder than things he has said and done in the past.
The demographics will change. Just look at a graph of voting intentions against age. Look at who voted for Labour this election, and who voted for the tories. Who's likelier to be around in five years' time? In the past people got more conservative as they got older. Now the under 35s have no solid jobs, no houses and no pensions. And they're not likely to get them under a tory government made up of landlords and bosses. There's nothing left to conserve - the tories will have to change tack at some point. I suspect that in 2025 the 2019 Labour manifesto will seem decidedly centrist,
As an aside….They were words NOT actions. Sestren references demographics and a changing attitude of young people in 5 years time. A lot can happen in 5 years but you have to also take into account the changing nature of the Conservative MP makeup. You now have a Conservative Govt no longer made up solely of the Westminster London SE elite but one with sunstantial representation from the Northern industrial regions and the Midlands. BJ might be PM but his Govt now comprises of MPs from all over the UK (excluding, of course Scotland) . That gives a faint glimmer of hope to those hoping that the government focusing on the whole of the UK not just London and the South are not just empty words. Apart from pockets with hard core support for Momentum like Barnsley where the class war is still raging (at least this BB gives that impression) and in spite of the fact that food bank and deprivation exists, For many people the idea of being 'working class' is outdated and they dont see themselves as such. The majority are far better off than they have ever been. However, we cannot be complacent. Relative poverty does exist in far greater numbers than should be acceptable in a civilised wealthy country. The example of one individual on a post on here today shows there is still a huge amount of work to be done. That individual is not a scrounger, idle or lazy but has been let down by a combination of uncaring inflexible attitude to rules and a extraordinary set of circumstances. However, you will never completely eradicate poverty as some , albeit a tiny number of 'so called' scroungers', work the system. It does a disservice to genuine victims of the system to claim otherwise.
This BBS is not necessarily a good barometer for determining the level of Momentum support in Barnsley. Most socialists I know are of the Alan Johnson persuasion.
Racist words. Alienating words. Words of a man who is PM. But OK, if you want actions, go look at his voting record and see how it affected the people he's now representing for the past 10 years.
Where is this evidence he wants to move to the centre? If he does, I will welcome it but there’s a shed load of work to do for that to happen. Also you say the economy is better under the Tories when the exact opposite is true. The debt is spiralling and although the deficit is reducing (still way off what the Tories said they would do) we are about to go for Brexit and the economy isn’t strong enough to cope. Some economic studies I saw last week said we could be on the verge of one of the largest recessions in history. This might actually be a blessing that Labour didn’t get in because if that happened on their watch they would never recover.
I'm sorry, but he has told too many lies too many times to ever be forgiven or trusted. He could solve hunger, climate change and world peace, but I wouldn't believe a single thing he said. I cannot ever bring myself to support someone that incites through words, or deeds, racism, misogyny or homophobia. I cannot ever bring myself to support someone that creates barriers, removes rights and won't help people that need it. That is against everything I believe and everything I stand for. It is what I was brought up to believe, what I have brought my child up to believe and how I try to act on a daily basis. If that is what the UK is now, then I want no part of it.