Well I've not been for a few games

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  1. KamikazeCo-Pilot

    KamikazeCo-Pilot Well-Known Member

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    I said I wouldn't as such on here and I'm still not going. Some people on here said they wouldn't go again/throw the season ticket away after Stendel and the lack of communication. They seem to have gone quiet or are now happy clappers. I'm not.
    I will go again later in Jan/Feb when I see that the board are actually bothered about the likes of me.
    Please don't patronise me by telling me what a tw.at I am after a few good performances. I am just as much a BFC fan as anyone else. I have concerns about the board, have said so on several occasions on here and until they show that they are genuinely concerned about the club/community I'm still pissed off. Appointing Struber may be a good decision. I'll reserve judgement.
    Cue the 'get a grip', 'are you for real?' 'did you see 'em yesterday?' comments.
    I don't care. I'll reserve judgement.
    If you insult me, which is the knee-jerk, default go-to position on here after a win then good for you, you're obviously a better fan than me.
     
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    Jake The Red Banned Idiot

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    What in terms of the community are you looking for? Because I know they had a bucket collection at the game today for a young fan who needs a lot of money for life-saving operations. The club were at the hospice and hospital this week too. Struber in his programme notes referred to the community feel of the club, how it married with his own feelings. I have to say, when I go to games I always feel it's a family, community based club. I feel part of it and can see the tremendous effort put into engaging with young and old.

    Your post generally seems a bitter one. Forgive me though, as I am not one of the many who were in the frame of mind that you were/are a few weeks ago. I was in a very, very small minority who didn't throw out the toys from the pram. I was pilloried for it too. But i understood why. It's not easy to stand your ground and stick to your beliefs when the majority scream away in times of strife.

    But it's true, your post comes over as a bit of a dig at fans who are back enjoying things.

    I did predict this would occur. That people would change tack once we start winning. It's a poor look on their part, granted.

    You are being you and I for one respect that. Just as I respect those who were never coming again eight weeks ago but have clearly had a change of heart. I remember saying I was never coming again when Parkin was in charge and we were actually down the toilet. But within a couple of weeks I was back.

    Age is great. Experience. It gives you perspective.

    I still think we need some on the field. We'd never have been in the bottom three had we added some last July/August.
     
  3. KamikazeCo-Pilot

    KamikazeCo-Pilot Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the non-belittling post. Appreciated. I just wanted to give another perspective (mine) as at the moment and we are winning and everything will be rosy in the garden for some. I do stick to my guns and get shot down for it sometimes. A long time ago, I was against the mainstream and suggested that Bruce Dyer was not as good as was suggested. I was accused of racism!!
    As far as the community stuff goes, it's great that the club do stuff like that. It has for a long time. My concern is not that. Briefly, as I can't be arsed going over old ground, I am uneasy with the capitalist owners of the club, who have no connection with it (or me). I could go on...
    As I say, I'll reserve judgement.
    I'm not bitter by the way but do like a good pint of..er...bitter...
     
  4. Red

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    Each to his/ her own, it's all about opinions.
     
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    Good post. My views on the board are well known, but equally I've not stopped going to games. Well, actually I have, but only because I'm in Germany/Austria until late January. If anything I've been to more games than usual since Stexit, including trips to Cardiff and Millwall. It's because I support the young lads on the pitch, who simply never give up and are improving all the time. What happened was not their fault. I also support the new coach and his staff who are clearly doing a great job.

    I realised that I was becoming tedious with my constant criticism of the board, so I decided to shut up and wait until the 1st February. Then we'll have a better idea of their true intentions for the club.
     
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    I don't like our board. Nothing has changed in that respect. I didn't say I'd stop going, I've paid for my ticket, so nothing has changed in that respect either. It's definitely more enjoyable at the moment though.
     
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    I'm only going because I've paid for my season ticket and I would only end up getting dragged round Meadowhall by the Mrs if not.

    I won't be spending another penny on the club after this season though as it stands, unless something drastic happens in the Summer.
     
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    Just to add to this, since Stexit I've spoken to loads of people face to face about the owners, in various pubs, curry houses, buses to/from away matches, around me at Oakwell and at away grounds, in takeaways, you name it. They're totally unanimous in their condemnation. I've not heard a single comment or argument backing the board. The only place I've heard that is from a few people on here, and 1 person on my Twitter. Very strange.
     
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    So the original poster doesnt want to be insulted, patronised or belittled while labeling folk who have decided to keep quiet as happy clappers. 4/10
     
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    The club shouldn't have sold the entire defence prior to the start of the season and it's transfer policy should be better aligned to it's stated aim of securing stability in the Championship. It should have informed fans that there were matters of concern of a non-football nature at the time of Stendel's departure. And it should have done more to work with the local authority to prevent the disastrous access arrangements to Oakwell which are currently being experienced. These are all things which are likely to dissuade me from renewing come April, notwithstanding the welcome upturn in results.
     
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    You will go again in Jan/ Feb when they care about the likes of you. Care to expand. What do you want them to do for you. ? Serious question. We all may have opinions on the strategy. But I genuinely don't see where your coming from.
    There have been more than a few good performances. Bad mistakes and the results don't show that.
     
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    Our owners have not bought the club to throw money at it. They said that from day one. If you ignored what they said, then that is your problem.

    The Championship is out of control. Many clubs are owned by people who are willing to bet everything on getting to the Premier League and hoping that they can stay there. That was never the way our owners planned to run the business and they said so from the start.

    The owners have bought Barnsley FC to make a profit. That is what they do. They are not taking money out of the club (at least they weren't according to the first financial statements after they took over). They are here to make a profit by improving the club and by selling it on to the next owner. That is what they do. They improve businesses and they sell them on for a capital profit over what they paid for them.

    They have never pretended to be anything else. Any impressions that fans got about them throwing vast sums of money around were put into their heads by their own hopes (allied to reports in the press about their alleged wealth). They have never led me into any other impression about how they intended to conduct their business, and I am a fan. If there was anyone from Barnsley with the funds to buy the club, and the desire to run it, then surely they would have come forward and made themselves know to Mr Cryne. It was widely know that he was dying, and wanted to sell, but no-one came forward. It is time to face realities. The current owners were the only people that convinced Mr Cryne that they had a viable plan for the club he loved. He will have done all the due diligence that he could in order to check them out, and if he thought that they were the best choice around, then I am prepared to back that.

    This is not a wind up, as anyone has read the pages and pages of stuff that I posted here earlier in the season will know. But I am essentially a realist. A realist who is prepared to face facts. A realist who knows that there is nothing special about my club, and who believes it has to stand on its own feet, or it will die. I remember at least 3 occasions in the past when that could have happened, and my club is too valuable to me to risk that again.
     
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    Brilliant post, from another happy clapper that's got patience.
     
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    The club didn't sell them, they left.
     
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    They were still under contract.
     
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    So was Ashley Ward.
     
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    I have 2 main criticisms of the board the biggest is the way they dealt with the Stendel situation I still don’t really know what happened and the 21 word statement was crass

    The second was cashing in on too many players this summer leaving us far too dependent on youngsters

    I always knew we were going to sell players but the balance was wrong

    We will be looking to offload some players in Jan but I will be. Disappointed if it’s one of our core and most experienced players (ie Mowatt or Woodrow)

    I’ll still be going though
     
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    Same old same old shi.te on here.

    There is only one thing the supporters can complain about and it’s this ............ fans have a point when they say not enough information is coming from the club.

    But in the case of Stendel there were reasons behind that - but even then there should have said a little bit more than they did.

    Murphy is as bad as Ganaye - so the instructions must be coming from the top to be quiet.
    Hence Conway being the only person that announces anything of importance.

    Long gone are the days when media organisations such as BBC Radio Sheffield and the Yorkshire Post praised our CEO (Mansford) for keeping them up to date - which inevitably also promoted the club to the general public at the same time.
    There is currently no one at the club that is encouraging people to come and watch Barnsley.
    Poor business model.

    Other than that - we haven’t anything to complain about really.

    Obviously the directors assessment of the Championship was way off the mark last summer. But eventually that will come good.

    Summer sales were unavoidable but IMO they should have tried harder to keep Moore.

    The current transfer policy needs tweaking - as not allowing young loanees to join the club (with a view to signing) is throwing the baby out with the bath water.
    Also the addition of a couple of older players - even if they act as subs - wouldn’t go amiss.

    But all in all - I’m happy with the overall trajectory.
    Much happier than I was under Patrick as we all knew there would be a trough after every peak.
     
  19. Gordon Owen

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    Davies wasn't, Lindsay wouldn't speak about a new one and Pinnock refused to sign one making him the highest paid player in the history of the club. We all know this anyway but folk refuse to accept it, not much more the board could have done - they weren't their contracts.
     
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    Whilst you have criticised me in the past for being unable (in your opinion) to engage in proper debate (hence my reason for not responding to your minority reports anymore) .....I would suggest that the above post from you is absolutely on the nail. One of the best I've read on here. Ever.
    it perfectly sums up how I feel about us as a club and puts pretty much everything into perspective. it's such a pity that others on here continually seem to ignore the truth of the matter.

    ps I know you're not looking for praise etc but please allow me to agree with you in this instance!

    pps HNY
     

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