More and more convinced the "plan" from the start was relegation...

There's nothing more exciting than a conspiracy theory!

Leave them to it mate.

It's the same lot who a month ago voted 6 to 1 that we'd be out of the relegation zone by the end of the season.

 

IMO this squad minus Woodrow, Chaplin, Mowatt and Brown would be mid table L1 at best and nowhere near mounting a promotion challenge. And this is where owner's plan goes tits up...

 

While I don't agree that we aimed for relegation, the conclusion drawn from this post is just as wrong.

Turnover and profit are entirely different. Your income can be lower but if you keep your overheads down profit can be higher. Every player on our books will have a clause in his contract that significantly reduces his wages should we be relegated. Overheads are significantly reduced. That may or may not cover the shortfall in income, but what League 1 does allow for is players who may go unnoticed in the Championship, like Keiffer Moore for instance, to play well and attract bids in the millions, which then means profit and even income can surpass that which could be made in the Championship.

That's not to say this was the aim, a player who performs well in the Championship can be sold for even more, and that I believe is the aim, but neither is it such a terrible outcome.

If you're going to tell me you already know this, why did you make the point?

 

Been done many times this, but found this article quite interesting.

http://financialfootballnews.com/barnsley-2018-finances-relegated-but-ready/

Bits jumped out to me was how little we got for McDonald & Roberts and the claim Owners will only benefit when club is sold(not sure on this part).
And cash reserves of £5.6 million

 

To take an aspect of this strategy further and to a ridiculous conclusion, the owners could simply loan our best players out to League 1 clubs and (hypothetically) see their value increase, then sell them.

Perhaps that's our McGeehan policy.

I prefer the simple "team not good enough" theory myself. Largely because it applies to every team that's ever been relegated when things are decided on the pitch.

 

I thought mid march but I cant see it now

 

The point I made was that if you're going to make more money then getting relegated isn't a good way to do it. It's just bonkers to think they are making millions from being relegated. We should be happy the club is well run and relegation is planned for, but not wanted, because they'd be foolish not to plan for it, it's how you run a business by looking at all scenarios. It doesn't mean they want it anymore than anyone else.

It's just Trumpian nonense.

 

So do I. I think we'll be relegated because we're not good enough. I think the owners want us to stay up. It's just that they won't invest in the type of player who will realise that ambition as the outlay is too much and the potential loss too high (and any profit if they do play well relatively small) . So they're prepared to accept relegation as the outlay for each individual player that will lead us to that is not so much, which negates huge losses on a player by player basis and the profit should they succeed can be large, even if that success is in League 1. If they really click then the profit from players who succeed in the championship can be massive. They just haven't signed any of those.

 

That’s fair enough if that’s the boards strategy to make money just on players sales .
I’m not convinced that is the solitary case though tbh.
I believe the board want to raise the profile of the club as an entity and sell on .
I’ve seen no evidence of this but that is what they say they are intending and imo it’s too early to judge .
They say they want to buy the rest of the ground to develop etc , obviously there’s suspicion in that from fans .
I’m not sure which way the board will go on this , if they get the ground will they develop or use it as part of their assets ?
If the council don’t sell the board won’t develop that’s a given imo but if they do the should do so with strict insertions but then the board may decide not to .
I don’t know what will happen I’m just pinning my hopes on the scenario that discussions and assurances have been agreed before the club was bought both by the council and the Cryne family .
I’m still in the belief that the board have made and continue to make some stupid mistakes but they’ll eventually get it right .
Trouble is it’s pissing the fan base off and we need some proof of assurances that the ship will be righted .

 

I'm sorry pal but I can only see one outcome with this lot relegation again, possibly promotion back to the championship. More likely not getting promoted and in both situations selling our better players. We are all going to get more and more angry and can see us doing protests like the Charlton, Blackpool and Coventrys of this world!

 

Here’s a thought ref the ground that I’ve not seen anyone else raise.
The ground is part owned by Council, what happens if funding from Govt is slashed so far that the Council end up with no choice to sell assets to raise cash to fund services?
Is it feasible to sell the building and lease the land to the board like what happens with a house sometimes?
If so what are the ramifications on that?

 

Well then I'd hope they'd give the club owners first refusal.

 

Yeah that be Conway etc.