On the topic of employment...

In 2035 there will be plenty of opportunities e.g. rickshaw drivers, horse breeders vets, horse and carriage drivers, farriers, blacksmiths given that the Govt are bringing forward the ban on Diesel and petrol new car sales to that year. Now given that ban will NOW include hybrids, many people in rural area with limited electricity Kw supply and virtually no public transport will be reduced to using horse and cart for transportation.
Now I know global warming is an issue and drastic measures are needed but expecting to replace ICE with electric cars in such a short timeframe is unrealistic given the billions needed to build the supporting infrastructure required. In some situations any amount of money would not overcome the obstacles

 

I wouldn’t worry about it Automation will have destroyed the world by then.

Machines doing Jobs cheaper than humans, no need for unqualified manual labour, you’ll either be rich or insanely poor.

 

Totally agree, I would like to know where the goverment of the time are going to recoup the duty ? I think its roughly a pound for every litre we put in in our vehicles at the minute. I totally get, understand and support looking after our environment but I also think even if we were to do everything in our power to eliminate the use of fossil fuels in EVERYTHING, then it wouldnt matter a jot as long as china, Russia, India the states are not bothered, our act will pail into insignificance in the grand scheme of things if they dont do anything.

 

They aren't banning used cars. Plus it's a target, if it proves to be unrealistic then it will be adjusted. It's better to have a target which will prompt swift action rather than a 30 year target where nothing will change for the next 15 years

 

Where is all the extra electrikery coming from struggling to cope at the moment without fossil fuel power stations supplementing wind power

 

Think ahead. Start breeding camels.

 

Best solution I've been reading about is the Aluminium air cell battery idea developed by Trevor Jackson.

https://www.automotivelogistics.med...al-air-a-better-battery-for-evs/40079.article

Most impressive and removes the wait for a recharge. We would simply pull up to a petrol station or supermarket, 90 second process to remove and swap the replaced battery. Old battery is then full recycled into a new battery.

Think this is the answer personally, especially when you look at the range and he has even removed any harmful waste product by modifying the solution that reacts..

 

Camels? I’m in Cumbria rained so much this year the poor beggars’d drown.

 

Target,, yeah. Remind me how the short brexit targets worked out.
They couldn’t run a bath!!

 

In 1947 the first diesel engine was introduced onto the british rail network.

In 1955 the process of dieselification and running down of steam infrastructure picked up pace.

In 1960 the last steam train for commercial use in the uk was built

In 1968 - the last steam train ran.


I think this is a good enough anology and timescale to show the possibilities and a real life example of how the advance of technology can take effect.

We've got another 15 years before sales will stop and lord knows how many more years before vans, pick ups and other barely commercial vehicles will be affected.

Imagine telling someone in 1955 that by 1970 steam would be long dead and the nay sayers would have called you a loon.

 

We’ll become what Cuba became after the USA embargo kicked in. Geniuses at repairing ancient cars, fabricating the bits they needed from nothing. Used cars is the way forward!

 

Eh? Dunt you think I've enough on?

 

15 years is a long time to get the infrastructure in place. We'll be fine!

 

The UK produces several times more power from solar than Australia (a mind boggling statistic given the relative land areas and climates). Power generation from wind, wave and solar isn't the problem, it's power storage. Once that problem is solved then anything is possible.

 

Yes, the way we chuck away perfectly serviceable cars, phones, tablets, watches etc etc etc just to get something new is the real problem driving global climate change.

 

I'm more concerned whether my liver will still be functioning in 2035 TBH.

 

Quite right.

 

A great documentary on this subject and the change of societal attitude from what is needed to what is desired

 

The problem is more than social attitude though isn't it? Before mass public transportation almost all people worked within walking distance of were they lived. Many never left the village or local area in their entire lives. The industrial revolution displaced many but, again they moved to where the work was. With the increasing prosperity of ordinary people, the car rivalled public transport and combined with public transport trams, buses, metros the the commuter was born and the suburbs developed. This had already started during the industrial revolution with the more wealthy moving out of the over populated, crowed unsanitary, polluted towns.
Now, most people think it acceptable to spend a couple of hours a day travelling to their place of work. Out of town shopping malls and hypermarkets are the norm.
The genie is out of the bottle and, especially with the population growth, it is hard to see how we can get back to a time when we managed without commuting.
High speed internet and a change in working methods e.g. more video conferencing etc is fine for some, but most occupations need physical presence at the workplace. Putting the clock back is not really an option and we need radical innovative answers of how we can get people to and from where they need to be without f*cking up the planet any more than we already have.
Protesters like Greta Thunberg and Extinction Rebellion are a mere sideshow . Whilst she is to be applauded for attempting to raise awareness, protesters do not actually provide solutions just 'noise'.
I genuinely fear that nature (human or otherwise) will be the final decision maker and at some point there will be a 'reset' resulting in decimation of the population and the *reduced numbers (or even entire eradication) will enable planet Earth, over time, to recover. All the talk of destroying the Planet, IMO, is nonsense. We may destroy the current conditions that support human life but the Earth will ultimately, survive and life, in some form will continue and evolve. For all we know this may already have happened on more than one occasion and our 'civilisation' is just the latest incarnation.
*The most depressing part of that is that the likely survivors would be the rich and powerful numpties that allowed us to get into the mess in the first place

 

Nature can fix things. The coastal erosion on the East Coast has created Spurn Head. Rise in sea levels just means the landscape alters. Films like Waterworld and 2012 are way off the mark.