For all those saying China have got it under control

I thought you could analyse the data? You don't seem very good at it.

 

53 people died recently all with underlying problems
How many people died yesterday from underlying problems which stemmed from other infections viruses such as flu etc
Strange they don’t mention that or how many.
People who have died from infections viruses other than COVID-19 just as they will have
It wouldn’t and doesn’t get a mention or airtime
it justs part of daily life on this planet
The other things I mentioned are way more deadly but nobody the government seems to care about those problems

There whole strategy evolves around all virus's life cycle which averages around 13 weeks give or take sometimes longer or shorter
Usually finishes before April
Odd time runs into may
Hence the 12 week timeframe
So lock everybody up until then

What are we going to do if a second then third wave hits keep locking people up for another 12 weeks then another
Same next year
Genius plan
You and the others just stand in the corner and piss your pants

We will just get on with it.

 

That was a joke aimed at a mindless statement.

there’s simply not enough data (according to the experts) to predict the ‘extra’ number of deaths, and idiots are running with ‘these people would have died anyway’ which is crass - were all gonna die.

 

That’s awful and it should not have happened. It even says in that article though ‘the levels were certainly not unprecedented’.

This time, they will be. A significantly higher number of people this time will need ICU care. We simply do not have the capacity for that.

I want to say again. I don’t know what the right answer is. However, I believe we need to do absolutely anything we can to not overload the NHS.

I don’t disagree. Surely this is why we, as a public, need to do everything we can to stop it becoming unmanageable. If nothing else, for the sake of the doctors and nurses that are having to make decisions already on who lives and who dies.

I’m sorry Jay. I respect you on here, I find you quite easy to have a conversation or discussion with, but I can’t help but feel like you’re being extremely selfish here. Putting your own desires to go out over everything else.

 

Oddly when you and others were belittling the figures weeks ago I was explaining exactly how they’d grow exponentially.
Now they’ve grown exactly how I explained, you turn your ignorance to the economic response.

 

Can you try not to insult people. I know you think you're right, but that doesn't make you right. I don't think your proposals are right. And even if you are right that still doesn't give you the right to continually insult people with a different point of view.

 

Point to me a post of mine where I'm belittling any figures.

 

It's nothing to do with what I want personally. I fear for our very society.

 

I’m done responding to these now... but will revisit this one in two weeks to see whose tune has changed. Two weeks is a long time with this virus....

 

I didn’t insult anyone I called the statement ‘mindless’.
And nor have I proposed any response (or even supported any responses)

 

And yes you have proposed a response. Testing and isolation. It's the "only way" remember. I'll quote that for you too if you like. While you're quoting my post where I belittle figures. But you just made that up didn't you?

 

I wasn’t proposing a response I was describing the difference between countries who were managing it better than others, and that it’s the only way to ‘know’ the rate of infection. It’s not my job to propose a response.

 

Reading this thread has made me incredibly sad.

Really, people need to stop thinking this virus only kills the elderly or people with underlying health conditions, it fcukking doesn’t.

I know Maths plays a part in this but until we find a vaccine, we’re going to made be to stay in. Get used to it, any thought of just letting it ride roughshod through countries at will, will mean millions and possibly hundreds of millions dead.

Theres some right **** gets posted on here but we are now talking life and death.

 

They have no idea about data or numbers
The people who have died may or will have died anyway
People who would have died from complications from COVID-19 from there secondary conditions
Also would have died from the there conditions if the had contracted other infections or viruses .

Average death just from flu is around 17000 per year in uk sometimes a lot less sometimes a lot more.
As you say time will tell
Wonder what the unemployment rate will be in two weeks and the damage to every company in the uk and worldwide

 

Makes you wonder why we sacrifice millions every year by not isolating in the winter months to stop people unnecessarily dying of flu

 

As of now just over 10,000 worldwide
Virus thought to have started in October November
And you are saying hundreds of millions dead
Kind of ironic bearing in mind the last two lines of your post

 

This isn’t flu you giant tit.

 

How the **** haven’t you grasped yet that this is significantly worse than flu?

 

I didn't say that it was. I said that it makes you wonder why we willingly sacrifice many many people (turns out it's around half a million per year not millions) to death by flu when isolation and closing the country down would prevent those deaths.

 

So at which level do we close the country down?
Flu kills half a million worldwide a year. No shutdown. Why not? These people DO die and it's unnecessary because if we went on lockdown they'd be alive. That's the simple facts. Why is someone dying of covid-19 a preventable tragedy but their sister dying of flu just 'one of those things'?

My point isn't that this isn't serious it's that why are we apparently so selfish about happily killing people with influenza?