O/T Alex Salmond.

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  1. Donny Red

    Donny Red Well-Known Member

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    Former Scotland First Minister Alex Salmond, has been cleared of sexually assaulting eight women.
     
    Donny Red, Mar 23, 2020
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    Was a big Unionist set up from the start
     
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    Cleared as in not guilty verdict?
     
    Redhelen, Mar 23, 2020
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    arabian_ian Well-Known Member

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    I don’t know Helen. I heard not guilty but it might equally be Not Proven but I hope it was the former.
     
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    arabian_ian Well-Known Member

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    Now I would want those females who fabricated those stories against him to be named and shamed.
    Trying to ruin a man’s life like that is inexcusable.
     
    arabian_ian, Mar 23, 2020
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    Fabricated or had a different take on what happened?
     
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    Proven in a court if law, they should be named and shamed
     
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    I'll ask the question I always do when these things come to trial - how do they actually convict these people for 'historic' cases of assault, abuse etc..? Without actual proof, does it just boil down to one word against the other? Genuine question...
     
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    Well Helen their different take did not stand up in court. Apparently one sexual charge was he sucked a woman’s toe. Did the Royal Fergie no have a liking for that?
     
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    How's that relevant? Are you saying the fact that one woman likes having her toe sucked gives men a general licence to do it?
     
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    I'd say there was a fairly simple and effective remedy to someone sucking your toe without consent.
     
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    Really? Do you really think so many women would try to ruin a man just for political reasons? If they have then they deserve to be prosecuted but I think at this stage it is could be irresponsible to make this into a political issue.

    I think false accusations of rape or sexual assault are abhorrent but women must be believed if we want more cases being brought to trial.

    I find it hard to believe that so many women would be so willing to end a mans career and reputation just because they don't agree with him politically. This doesn't mean that they haven't, just that trying to score political points at this stage is irresponsible.
     
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    No I’m not saying that at all. But that was how trivial some of the charges he was facing. Hardly rape was it.
     
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    It's beyond reasonable doubt, so it ultimately boils down to who's most compelling and able to provide witnesses and evidence.
    Balance of probabilities under civil law is a whole different ball game though.
    The prosecution made it clear that he had a certain kind of M.O, and all women involved described similar traits.
    The court found him not guilty so therefore was there a conspiracy and have those involved provided false testimony?
    Clear as mud!
     
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    Well a jury of 9 women and 6 men believe Alex and not them
     
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    I wasn't questioning the verdict, I was questioning your assertion that the motivation for the allegations were political.
     
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    Ok sorry. Well it’s well believed here that dark forces from within Westminster and the English establishment will stop at nothing to discredit the SNP and its members. A lot will come out in next few months
    Remember any government that can orchestrate the death of an unwanted royal without any repercussions is a government that will do anything to help preserve the continuation of the United Kingdom
     
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    They say its a fabrication for political purposes but surely it can't be easy to find so many women to perjur themselves, if it was a set up I would have thought getting say 2 well briefed would have been the most likely way.
    Sounds more like a perennial sex pest, though tbh I'd have found him guilt just for being Alex Salmond!
     
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    as would a few others mate. Tbh initially I thought this does not look good for him and the best he could have hoped for was a not proven verdict seeing as most offences were allegedly done in private with no witnesses
     
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