Here’s a test for you...

He is the PM he is the leader he is the person that can stop these idiots .
Yes I also have anger for the feckless oafs who are not taking the advice but anger doesn’t protect me and if I took the matter into my own hands is rightly be charged .
Who do we look to in times like these ? If some people aren’t taking any notice do we just shake our heads and let it happen? Or do we look to our leaders to stop it?

 

I don't think we're very far apart in our thinking tbh. I take the view that it's right to ask people and assume that they will. And then act to stop it if they don't . But I get why you believe he should have acted sooner. It has to stop and quick now.

 

Tbh think we’re poles apart ,
If a prime minister asks the country to do something and expects them all to comply then that prime minister is in cloud cuckoo land .
There’s idiots and feckless people in every . It’s wrong to rob banks is he gonna ask them to give up ? These people are putting lives at risk and even their own then the NHS staff are gonna spend precious time on them when it could have been avoided and spent in someone else .
The facts are staring us in the face of how bad this is and people still don’t realise untill it’s too late.
Italy’s prime minister Spain’s prime minister have imposed lockdowns we’ve had more warning than them but yet this berk is still asking fir people yo fi the right thing . That’s the point he knows it’s the right thing to do so he should impose it.

 

Really hits home, doesn't it.

People have still not grasped the gravity of the situation.

I saw a woman being interviewed while out doing her shopping, she must have been in her 70s saying "we're living our life as normal. If we don't we're giving in to it and letting it win"

It's a ******* virus you stupid bitch. Not the germans during world war 2.

 

And we’re supposed to rely on people like these taking the PMs ADVICE??

 

Fair enough pal. I thought the vast majority of people would comply and follow the guidelines. Clearly the evidence of the last couple of days suggests otherwise.

 

These people are allowed to vote.

 

If you went out for a birthday meal on Saturday night with your 70-something parents, your parents-in-law and a couple of your favourite aunts and uncles, and at the end of the night you drew lots to see who you would get to beat to death you'd be locked up for murder. If you went out for a birthday meal on Saturday night and started to feel a little rough on Sunday or Monday, you could have done exactly the same thing without knowing.

 

keep aneye

O/T from op -
had this happened 50 years ago many people would have been flocking to their local church to pray as they would see this pandemic in a religious context. Today people believe that they can control/halt things whereas 50 years ago people would have prayed for the Lord's help/intervention to help them.
Read BFC Chaplin Amos message re the CV - on this site. It was surprisingly non-secular with no indication that it was written by someone religious.
There is very little lead/guidance from our religious leaders at these difficult times.

 

As it should be. That would be unhelpful and counterproductive.

This is a matter of science, not a matter of imaginary friends.

 

Now THAT is an analogy that, whilst graphic, illustrates the situation perfectly. I berated the poster of the OP which, IMO, contained an analogy that was plain daft.

It is interesting that we have some serious anti Tory/BoJo poster on here some accusing him of inaction and others claiming it is in danger of becoming a totalitarian state. I cannot help but think ......
a) He is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
b) Some on here (mainly those same people I just referred to) are IMO allowing their political bias to cloud their judgement on a topic that should be non-political as we are all in the same leaky boat.

Personally, I do agree with those who think serious errors have been made re timescales for bringing in restrictions that may well come back to haunt the UK. However, I see no evidence to place the blame solely on BJ and the Govt., just 'cos "he is the PM ffs" as someone here said, as he has relied on Scientists and Medical officers with no indication that he has ignored their advice or over-ruled them.

We are in uncharted territory and the same people complaining about businesses and workers being left destitute and demanding instant answers are also complaining about the 'softly softly' approach regarding imposing lockdown. One directly impacts the other but it is easy to criticise when you don't have to make the tough decisions.

As George Burns once remarked "What a pity all the people who know how to run the country are either driving taxis or cutting hair"

 

What I'm saying is that the Religious Dimension to this pandemic should be available to those who seek it. At the moment our Religious Leaders are very quiet.
BR - would you deny any religious support to those who want it because they have a different perspective to you on things?

 

In principal, no. I imagine many are doing, within their own communities.

Religious leaders tend to be older though, so they should really be isolating, for one point.

For another, it would be extremely unhelpful if a religious leader came out and, for example, said that all people should go to church and pray for this to go away. Clearly, churches are not a good idea right now.

 

An amendment has been accepted for a 6 monthly review.

The law is expected to pass on the nod, tonight, go to the Lords tomorrow and Wednesday and become law on Thursday.

 

Agree mass gathering in church is not a good idea and there would be little point in praying for it 'to go away.'
But what of the many people who have a strong faith - who pray for the well-being of others who pray for strength to deal with adversity etc.
The point I was making was that 50 years ago our religious leaders would have had a much higher profile in difficult times whereas today they are 'absent.'

 

The Sikh community is continuing its (quiet) charity work in the local areas around their temples. Already organizing food deliveries and other help for the vulnerable.

 

Should have been enforced isolation for the vulnerable right from the start. Without wanting to be callous it's the vulnerable refusing to take any responsibility for themselves which is causing their deaths and has now crippled the country.