Here’s a test for you...

"DESPAIR"

 

You are being callous!

Vulnerable people didn't choose to be vulnerable. Of all the at-risk groups my guess is that the 'vulnerable' group are most aware of the implications of getting the virus and they will be doing all they can to avoid that happening.

It is the Corona Virus is crippling the country.

 

In my experience a hell of a lot of them really aren't doing anything at all.

It isn't exactly hard is it. You're at risk of dying. You're high risk. You've been told for months that you're high risk. Why the hell would you have your friends round, go to the pub, pop to the shops etc?

Here's a really simple fact. If you are 75 years old with a lung condition and you go out you MIGHT catch it and die.
If you are 75 years old with a lung condition and you stay in your house and don't have contact with people you 100% will not get it.

 

I think you’ve confused your life with an episode of Midsomer Murders. ;-)

 

Genuine question here Marlon. We are poles apart politically but I think we are both following the advice of the government, neither of us are panic buying and we are both observing social distancing. So if we, from different parts of the political spectrum can do it then why can't the idiots that we are seeing up and down the country? What sets us, and the majority who post on here apart from the idiots?

 

So the many thousands of people on the beaches and hundreds of inland beauty spots this weekend were over 75 with a lung condition?
And you assert that that all the elderly and vulnerable are all partying hard?

You win the prize for the most bizzare post in a bizzare period

 

The toilet bowl thing I just don't understand.
Licking a supermarket shelf is stupid but I get it. It makes you look cool to your mates. Look at me I'm hard I'll lick a shelf. Well done ********.
Bread. Same. Look at me I don't care, in cool I'll buy it because it's funny. It isn't but I get why an idiot would think it is.
But licking a toilet that's been pissed and **** on. Does anyone ANYONE look at someone doing that and think wow how cool is he?

 

In my experience (and that of friends of other elderly relatives) many of them just don't grasp what 'not going out' actually means. Believe me, it's really frustrating and colleagues I've spoken to have the same stories.

It's no fun.

 

To be fair you had a bloody good go at it with your Stephen Fry post.

 

No that's not what I said

 

I’m sure that had it been an enforcement rather than advisory 99.9% of these going out would it have done so the other .01% would probably have been dicks and done it anyway .
Someone I know are in the predicament that their elderly relative is in a managed sheltered accommodation and they have to do the shopping and drop it off in the sheltered home . Because of this the care the home is like open house with relatives back and forwards .
There should either be provisions made by fewer people getting supplies to their flats by taking it from relatives or a daily shopping service whete minimal contact is made . I’m sure there’s other instances where people are being risked .
Johnson has done this half baked imo by stopping the country congregating on some things and asking them to heed advice on another . Without proper instruction (not advice )
These sheltered houses and care homes are bein risked and all this other legislation is pointless if it isn’t being done full measure.

 

I think they genuinely do grasp it but refuse to accept it. In the experience of those who I know it's a case of 'well it's not that much risk and I'll probably be ok'. What they don't realise is that if they isolated then the herd immunity theory would most likely work and they'd be safe but because they won't it's just risking everything.

Is it a coincidence that the ones I know (not just elderly but vulnerable in other ways) who refuse to protect themselves are also big backers of Brexit? And not for well thought out reasons like some brexiteers had but for the stereotypical racist or simply stupid reasons? Ie they're selfish idiots

 

I don't think many over 70's are attending orgies/drinking dens/supermarkets etc.
'A hell of a lot of them' - (the 'vulnerable') - are terrified of getting the virus as they know what the likely outcome will be -- they are doing all they can to protect themselves.

You have focused on a specific group - made spurious claims - and on the basis of these unfounded claims you then berate and bully them.
Shame on you ST!

 

They aren't unfounded. They're based on many people I know. And here's a simple one for you. If the elderly person you know isn't doing as I say then my post isn't directed at them

 

I'm going to shout this from the rooftops.

Herd Immunity would never have worked with this virus and no vaccine. The % of people hospitalised and the % of those that are hospitalised that need intensive care means that the NHS would have been overrun very quickly. It still very likely will be.

 

You dont know it wouldn't work. There are still many countries working towards it. I think you're confusing herd immunity with vulnerable people left to get it and herd immunity with those isolated

 

Of course we are Mario but if the dicks insist what can we do ?
It’s ok saying they shouldn’t and frowning on them (which they deserve) but it’s not stopping it.
This isn’t a case of well they should know better they should be made to abide otherwise it’s pointless .
I mentioned the end of season pitch invasions , nothing stops it and we go home a rant and rave that they are Morans but the only consequence of that is we don’t get to clap the players , this is different this is life and death so I want more than finger pointing and calling them morons I want action proper leadership action with consequences wgen they ignore it ,
But as I said in an earlier thread about care homes people are having to go out to provide for relatives because theres no leadership in how to care for them because the prime minister should be making provisions that if we can’t provide fir them someone will ,
It’s ok all this don’t visit your mother on Mother’s Day if there is someone looking after them whilst you can’t and in these sheltered accommodations there isn’t so we are having to go out it’s stupid ,
If there’s any doubt that this PM hasn’t a clue it’s now being proven .

 

There's a difference between working towards it by slowly allowing it to pass through the country, compared to locking away the vulnerable and telling everybody else to go and get it. The latter would just obliterate the NHS.

Anybody can get and die from this virus, not just the old and vulnerable. Anybody.

 

double negatives in one sentence are an indication of unclear thinking -

 

Some of those that went to the seaside etc yesterday will in one or two weeks be in intensive care because of it , from a health spokesman .