As a Key worker- dilemma re school situation

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  1. Don

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    If the IT fails to work and no ones there to fix it - will there really be no consequences?

    Add to that - I'm fairly sure I know who the OP works for and i bet my salary on the fact they'll be recruiting temp staff massively in the very near future - whether he's grasped the reality or not, millions of people are gonna rely on his department to stay alive.
     
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    Don't forget we didn't have computers for many years and clinical staff were still able to provide health care. I don't work for a hospital so have no dealings with any serious medical equipment. we issue phones, laptops etc.
     
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    Some perspective for you. I'm told at a food factory in Barnsley staff are still working doing jobs where they are literally stood shoulder to shoulder with each other.
     
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    I'm fairly sure that in an emergency they could still work without IT But I'm also fairly certain it'll take longer and take people away from caring / healing.

    You're not much of an advert for the IT industry ;)
     
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    I was more thinking about the likes of Mr Ashley, Martin etc...
     
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    Yes - but in a response to someone who's required to keep the country running and being told by his line manager he should be at work.

    It's not the same - or even similar.

    I understand it's scary - but he's not giving CPR to people dying of this virus, like some people who are being paid no more than him in the NHS.

    Apologies if that sounds blunt - but we need a reality check here.
     
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    Just comes out of frustration when we are told those who can work at home are expected to, we can but are not able to. More than happy to provide all support needed to our staff but this can easily be done remotely (for my role anyway).

    A large number of our staff are working from home, we are a mental health trust so mainly have support staff etc. apart from ward workers who of course have to be on site to ensure care for those in there. If any of these staff have issues with kit while working at home/isolating there is not much we can do regardless is we are in the office or not as if they are home in isolation we cannot go fix the issue.
     
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    my partner is a nurse working 12 hours a day because of staffing issues upped to 5 days a week. Every single person making a non essential journey of any kind is making her life worse increasing strain on the NHS and endangering her life.

    many within local govt and the NHS are designated as key workers when they clearly are not. Their employers are just as bad as the Tim Martin’s of this world. If you believe your workplace is unsafe you should self isolate unless literally someone’s life depends on you not doing so.
     
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    my missis is a nurse currently on day 5 of 13 hour days due to staff shortages. Every non essential journey by a not essential person designated as key workers adds to her burden and endangers her life. Office staff in the NHS for example have been told to attend as key workers. Unless your role is fundamental and not designated ‘key’ by your employer on false pretexts then you should stay at home.
     
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    There needs to be a reclassifucation because any admin staff aren't key workers in the NHS. There's a good chance I'll be transmitting the virus from South Yorkshire to West Yorkshire and infecting medical staff when I return to work after 4th April due to using public transport. I'm prepared to contact patients, cancel clinics etc from home.
     
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    My concern is my daughter and her physical and mental well being. I don’t want to be off work at all, neither does my wife. I’m glad you’re confident almost certain my daughter would be fine because I know she isn’t. She is very anxious to say the least. I’ve spent the last week explaining why she can’t go out and about and play only in her garden, and now We’re telling her To go out. I know full well the importance of my role at work but my key concern is and always will be my family
     
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    WTF
     
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    Exactly. No one is more upset than NHS workers about being endangered by the false key worker narrative.
     
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    This, it was only the start of this week that our managers put a stop to us going off site for fixes/new phone deployments and also put a stop to staff just coming into our office to have us look at faults with kit. We have a huge footprint as a trust so these staff could have been all over the place in all sorts of homes/offices then come in to see us and passing us there kit that they have had their hands all over.
     
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    So who’s chasing the orders for PPE, paying wages, paying suppliers?

    AFAIK the government has told everyone to work from home if possible, but all that unglamorous essential work needs doing so that frontline staff can do their jobs.

    I understand there’s a great deal of distrust of management and back room staff. But we need a reality check here.
     
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    everything you list there can be done remotely no one doing any of those tasks should be attending a workplace.
     
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    But it can all be done from home. That's the point.
     
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    People don’t see to grasp that we live in a world of technology where a virtual office is more than achievable.
     
  19. Don

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    And if it can be done remotely it should be - but if you think an organisation using secure data can change from office based to homeworking overnight you're mistaken.

    The government have to loosen their internal guidance on personal data - not something that gets signed off after a 5 minute chat.

    Whilst you can happily accept that someone sat in a service centre has access to your tax records to do their job - how do you feel about them looking at that in their kitchen?
     
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    Absolutely.

    I would argue most people will get more done at home, due to less distractions.

    Especially if they usually work in the scam that is an open plan office.
     
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