Any one see that poor nurse on look North ?

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  1. Marlon

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    I do say so , you kept having cheap point scoring digs at me saying my posts are cheap and point scoring .
    Well I can tell you they are not they are heartfelt and constructive criticisms of s govt that’s feked us up over this . And ad I’ve said on here I’ll say what I think why don’t you put your views for a change instead of following folk around the board with CHEAP snipes ?
     
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    I think there all as bad I dont think much of boris but I wouldnt have trusted corbyn to run me a bath never mind a country two terrible candidates.
    Both parties have done there bit to privatise the NHS both have taken money from pension schemes. But this isnt about that this is a global pandemic which no prime minister in my life time has faced I dont think any other government would have brought on a full lockdown sooner than boris did like you wanted. I just think it's a hard read at times.
     
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    Well tbh your thinking is far from reality , I don’t know what Corbyn would have done but that’s irrelevant anyway .
    Obviously you havnt read all my posts otherwise you’d know I havnt pushed any other party . As far as lockdown you havnt read my posts again or even the news or read a paper because he obviously could have locked down earlier as the media are holding him to account . I’m not gonna ketpbrepeating about China and Italy just read about it somewhere and then you’ll realise he could have done something a lot sooner .
    As for political point scoring I’m not a politician do your points mute , I am putting my views and holding this pm to account in my posts .
     
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    How old are you? The last global pandemic was in 2009* (Swine Flu). Although there are arguments that AIDS is a global pandemic.

    *See also 2001 (SARS), 1968 (Hong Kong Flu( and 1957 (Avian Flu)
     
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    I have concluded that a number of people on here, and in particular, Marlon, are so entrenched in their views and believe themselves to be morally and intellectually superior to anyone who does not support their ideology, that is utterly pointless to engage in any debate with them.

    Fortunately there are a number of reasonable people on here, who whilst they may have different political ideologies I am able to havae a sensible discussion with without being subjected to accusations at various times of being a 'little Englander', a 'vile human being'' 'sad lonely old man' and even 'racist' for daring to have a different opinion based on what I have seen and experienced. If I call someone out based on something inaccurate, baseless or irrelevant to the debate I then get accused of petty name calling. I have only ever called someone on here something I would have been prepared to do in, say a pub conversation and, yes, I would call one or two idiots to their face on occasions, but certainly not some of the names I have had aimed at me. Too many 'angry' keyboard warrior on here !!
     
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    #26 Marlon, Mar 28, 2020
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    sensible discussions being the ones you think you win ??
    Yer right I’ve concluded your pathetic do you know that .
    I’m entrenched because of what’s happening , what’s happened . Just because someone’s got different views from you and airs them you are like a big bairn .
    What about your views and rants on Brexit on here you were like an arrogant big bairn .you were the biggest key board warrior on here
     
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    It could easily be the case that, all I would say is any MP with either of those views should not be MP’s as they are operating on a personal gain (albeit actually personal or party) basis as opposed to the greater good.
    Which IMO is what is wrong with Politics but that’s another debate.
     
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    #28 Terry Nutkins, Mar 28, 2020
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    Our neighbour is the senior nurse in charge of the iCU and Covid team at Doncaster Royal Infirmary.

    On Thursday she had to send her 12 year old daughter to stay with her mum for 3 months and they won’t have contact apart from Facetime.

    She’s as front line as it gets and the risk they are putting themselves through daily along with what they have to give up in terms of family is utterly unbelievable. These people should be paid quadruple what they are, and they should be given medals when we get through this.

    The cuts to our NHS Over the last 15 years have been an abhorrent piece of politics that have cost lives. Never more so than now.

    The front line workers of the NHS are holding up our country again. This isn’t the first time either.

    We salute you all.
     
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    Thankyou.
    I have contacted the CQC at least 20 times over the last few years with firm evidence showing how we were/are being deliberately under-staffed and how this put(s) patients and staff at significant risk. To be fair to the CQC they do investigate but the trust blatantly lie. Unfortunately no-one else backs you up so it's easy for the trust to wriggle out of it. People don't back you up because they are fearful of consequence. I further put together an evidence based dossier over a six months period. I managed to get a meeting with two trust executives to discuss my evidence further. They promised me the world then all of a sudden i was moved from a highly specialised ward where i had worked for 8 years to one that was sedate in comparison: the promised investigation never happened :)
    I am currently putting together another dossier of evidence which goes much further than staffing and safety. We do not have enough beds so we are being told to sleep patients on the floor or in a lounge (on an air-bed!). I have learned that i now need to present this information elsewhere and i will be taking it to the media.
    But despite all this a couple of days ago i was mightily sneered at on here by jimmy vizz who said i wasn't fit to practice ( simply because i pointed out we had favourable A/L/sick/mat pay and decent pension in comparison to the private healthcare sector) and then he called me "cheese".
    Don't recall ever feeling as angry and disgusted with anyone for many a year especially given the circumstance we are in.
    This crisis is hard enough without the idiocy.
     
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    I can’t like this post enough , well said . I’ve posted on here thousands of time’s before this crisis about our NHS and the people involved especially the front line and the way they’ve been treated by all party’s but mainly Conservative and the Lib Dem’s of course in that period .
    I have been accused of entrenched views and being a key board warrior etc etc but the contents in your post is the reason I get angry and vent my views on forums, in the pub etc etc . Not because I want to run a labour campaign but to try and make a difference .
    I hope after all this all the party’s treat the NHS as a national treasure .
     
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    I didn’t see that mate so can’t comment.

    Rest assured I can guarantee that my family and I know how tough it is for you all right now. We are very close to our neighbour and I’ve been and spoke to her over the wall between our houses (at a safe distance) and she’s been in tears both times. She’s normally tough as ****.

    The underfunding and mismanagement of the NHS this last 15 years or so has been a dereliction of duties from MPs to NHS management themselves.

    I just hope when we get to the other side of this the powers that be understand what we have in this country, an NHS to be proud of and one which we can take back to being the best healthcare in the world. I’d happily pay another 5% tax per yer to help pay for it.
     
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    #32 Tekkytyke, Mar 28, 2020
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    All the experiences re Healthcare I and all by family have had over the years both in the UK and here, with one or two minor issues, have been overwhelmingly positive. Every frontline health professional has been dedicated an commited. I do find it ironic though that Govts are blamed for all the shortcomings when it is apparent that Trust Executives distort the truth at enquiries. If that is the case then unless that is endorsed from on high i.e. the Govt then how do they resolve individual issues albeit widespread if not in possession of the full facts. Not disputing the underfunding for one second but money is not a bottomless pit and the idea of having .for example, tens of thousands of respirators just in case. is not a viable solution .
    Frontliners are heroes in my book as it is not just a job.
     
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    38 pretty sure we never put the country on lockdown or Infact alot of the world. So I stand by what I said no pm in my lifetime has been in charge of anything on this scale.
     
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    It’s a bottomless pit when it’s needed.

    Bailing out banks
    Paying off Northern Ireland Governments to stay in power
    Brexit
    Leave campaigning costs.
     
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    That’s true and no disputing that fact but (and I’m not including you in this) some are making excuses for the delay the govt made on stopping incoming people especially affected regions .
    Now I’m not being political about this but the prime minister was warned yes he was going on the guidance of the people around him but there were other people of similar stature telling him he’d got it wrong . Also MPs were telling him including top Tory ex cabinet ministers .
    Not saying he deliberately put us at risk that’s for debate after but he took what looks like the wrong advice and being prime minister the buck stops there it’s part of the job description and imo it doesn’t look good for him .
     
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    Have you sought advice from the union reps? What did they have to say?
     
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    He could have restricted incoming flights from those affected countries sooner I agree, you always have people returning home from affected countries but I think those were automatically quarantined at the time. I'm not sure he could or should have put the country on lock down sooner.
     
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    #38 havana red1, Mar 28, 2020
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    No i havn't. The main reason is my desire to remain as anonymous as possible.
     
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    Press ahead and take it to the media mate. I have always gone with my conscience rather than my personal consequences. One thing my Dad told me was. " Speaking the truth is better than troubling your conscience" I understand some suffer through being so open. But for me I see it as the only way to change things. For the better I may add. I believe I could have gone onto promotion through my company. But I could never alter my stance. Hence I became a union rep.
     
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    Doesn't sound like that helped last time though if they moved you? Id get them involved or at least seek their advice
     

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