Big jump again today to 562 deaths

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  1. Sup

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    Am I reading that right that they are testing hospitalised people numerous times?
     
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    WHO advise for testing people who had it to checking they are free is to do 2 tests 24 hours apart. So anyone being released from hospital will be being tested twice for sure.
     
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    Makes sense. I assumed it was the opposite way round. People being admitted to hospital seriously ill. Tested and no symptoms. Still seriously ill, tested again and they had caught it in hospital
     
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    Nurses on the covid ward at pinderfields only have gloves paper surgical masks and standard aprons, absolute disgrace.
     
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    Really... was working up at barnsley a and e last week and then on one of the wards (not a covid ward). There did not appear to be any issue with the appropriate ppe. I've never seen 'paper masks' at barnsley or the regular nhs hospital i work at either.
     
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    As in, they're only feelings, not facts, and as you know, you can't prove feelings..

    Pathetic.
     
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    Not only that but can you imagine if For example Dianne Abbot had come out with this

     
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    Someone I know was in intensive care ( tested positive at first but then it was negative). Thankfully back home now.
     
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    An odious human being.

    always looks on the verge of a smirk, even when discussing mass deaths, horrible person.
     
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    The ******* arrogance of that. Not sorry for any shortcomings - sorry for you if you think there are shortcomings.
     
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    Therein lies the issue. A structure that is efficient under normal circumstances is quickly overwhelmed in extraordinary circumstances. As an example, efficiency would predicate as close to 100% bed occupancy as possible. In a normal March we'd not need as many beds as we currently do. The NHS has to carry excess capacity in order to deal with unusual circumstances. I too speak as a layperson.
     
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    Excess capacity for unusual circumstances would be nice. But it is unrealistic.

    What if, for example, covid19 was a virus that hospitalized 75% of the UK population? When it is first let loose, we don't know how many it will afflict badly.

    Should we have that extra capacity hanging round just in case it attacks everyone that badly?

    No. So we wing it as best we can and hope that we can adapt and apply resources to cope. We all need to do our bit.

    Speaking too as a layman.
     
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    But surely there's a balance? Standard winter occupancy of beds in England hospitals is 95%.
     
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    How can there be a balance for something the NHS hasn't had before?

    There's an annual flu spike, which has its bad years.

    But this is different to that. And it could have been alot worse.

    Sometimes you just have to accept that you can only react as best you can once you've got the problem.
     
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    Not really. We stockpile weapons just in case, why don't we stockpile lifesaving equipment just in case too?
     
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    I'm sure if we went to war we would find out we weren't prepared for that!
     
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