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  1. Sco

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    According to the update to the Coronavirus 2020 law that was pushed through last week, it is currently perfectly legal to leave your house and travel to work, but it is currently illegal to be *at work*. Although very likely to be thrown out of court if it ever got that far.
     
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    what is the view of the Teachers Unions re opening schools?
     
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    Well you're clearly highly vulnerable. My employer (nhs) is not backing down on this. I have to keep a 2 metre distance from my peers and patients:) So I can't do my job anyway. Utter madness.
     
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    It is mate. The whole system seems to be very arbitrary. What are you like for PPE?
     
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    Hiw many suicides if you lose your family to this disease? Or if you have health complications after contracting it?
     
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    If there wasnt a shortage of nurses (44k last year IIRC) and general reliance on 'other staff' (even in a time of non crisis) then people like yourself would perhaps be able to do so.

    Also, as a registered MH nurse (if Im guessing correctly from what you've said), what you can actually do on a Covid ward is limited when compared to a trained Adult Nurse...Not a criticism btw!

    In my School of Healthcare the numbers of Adult Nurses last September fell by 33% compard to previous years meaning the numbers graduating in 3 years time will mean about 5 less Adult Nurses in Leeds (as that's where the overhlemin majority stasy on to work) compared to the previous few years.

    That said, somewhat ironically Covid may also be an excellent advert for nursing. Ive not seen the applications for this year, here's hoping!
     
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    How many women are currently getting battered because they are locked in with an abusive partner? How many relationships are at breaking point as you are in each other’s pocket and starting to become abusive?

    How many kids are witnessing their home life descend into chaos?
     
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    I'm not disagreeing with any of that but you also will get suicides directly as a consequence of the disease as well.
     
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    A lass I know was asked yesterday by her neighbour, "will you look after my kids while I go to a BBQ" I kid you not.
     
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    Doesn't surprise me in the slightest. People in this country are selfish ******** that can't follow instruction. This is why we will continue to experience deaths at a staggering rate.
     
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    It's a awful situation isn't it. I really think this school year should be written off essentially and try and work towards September. Even if its something like reduced hours for the kids so they aren't all at school at the same time.
    Eventually Schools will have to open in some form and I accept that is increasing the risk for teachers. But waiting for a vaccine isn't really viable. Tough choices ahead.
     
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    I work on the mental health wards and we do have patients who have tested positive. We have new patients admitted on a daily basis who could be positive, we don't know as they are only tested if symptomatic. This is the same for staff too.
    So it is a very risky environment to be in.
    Apparently we have enough ppe but some staff are ignoring the guidelines on certain wards.
    Regarding nursing shortages. Every individual ward has a set staffing ratio as per budget. This has dropped significantly over the years, dangerously so. The point being you can only employ as many people as the budget allows. So consequently unless our staffing budgets are raised then we will not employ more staff.
    Will that happen? Not hopeful.
     
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    Our course used to take on average about 50 Mental Health students a year, that number has dropped off in recent years. Our current thirds years, due to complete in September, have just 29 students. The 2nd years number about 26, the first years 30. :(
     
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    Nobody knows.

    But what we do know is over 26000 people have died due to this horrible virus - and if we lift the lockdown this will increase.

    We have to deal in facts not speculation.
     
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    Says the poster who is speculating.
     
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    Bit of a broad brush statement there BR. Since the lockdown took place the people I have encountered all seem to be mindful of the regulations. Maybe I've been lucky? My wife and I have followed the guidence, it's difficult because we have a granddaughter who is seventeen months old and we're missing her growing up. The problem with kids at that age is they don't understand social distancing.

    With regards to deaths, I'm not sure about this but because of the incubation period and the length of time between the onset of symptoms and death, have the social distancing measures fully impacted the death rate yet ? Again I'm not sure.
     
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    Ok, the whole objective of the restrictions is to stop the spread of the virus,

    We are fell walkers and before the lockdown we walked a fair bit around the Langsett area.

    If we were to do this now it would involve the following:

    Wife and I drive to start of walk parking well away from car park to avoid any congregation (approx 20mins)

    Walk area that you don't meet anyone even on a busy bank holiday. (2.5 hours including 20mins sandwich stop)

    Drive back.

    We don't do this as Mountain Rescue have asked not to put them in a situation where they would have to undertake rescues at the moment.

    Apart from that where would the above action contravene social distancing ?

    I'm only posting this as a discussion point.

    Dave
     
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    There are parts of Sheffield where it looks like a fun run, yet the countryside is 5 mins drive away. My colleague goes to Froggat by car to avoid the crowds. We don't as I daren't. Having said that he has seen plenty of rural villagers driving in to the supermarkets so I suppose what's sauce for the goose......
     
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    I think they massively shot themselves in the foot when they scrapped the bursary system for a couple of years. Mental health nursing cohorts tend to have a broader mix of age than other fields and to attract that you need to make it financially viable. I couldn't have done it otherwise.
     
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