Millions of us

are unemployed. Just no one has told us yet.

Thousands of us will lose our house. You just haven’t found out yet

Hundreds of thousands will lose their car. People haven’t realised yet.

And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

 

Best lift the lockdown then.

You could then add...

Hundreds of thousands of us are dead. We just haven't realised it yet.

 

Any job losses due to COVID are a result of government policy. Any house losses due to COVID are a result of government policy. Any car repossessions due to COVID are a result of government policy. Any deaths due to COVID are a result of government policy.

None of them have to happen.

I keep going on about Taiwan, but they have had 6 deaths and the economy is running as normal - in fact, when you take out the lost tourism, all other sectors are bigger than they were last year. Shops are open, restaurants are open, all members of the public are given 3+ free face masks per week and wear them outside the house.

Millions of people voted for this government (just under 14 million to be precise). All the job losses, repossessions and deaths that the government allow to happen are the "Will of the People". We warned them, but they did not listen. They wanted their "precious Brexit" and sod the consequences. These are the consequences.

They are entirely unnecessary. We didn't stop fighting in WW1 or WW2 because it was expensive. If we went to war now, we would throw money at it until the end, but because people need help in peacetime and voted for a government that doesn't care they won't get the help they need.

 

I am in no way defending the government's response and the impact could certainly have been better mitigated but whatever had happened the structure of our economy meant that impact of COVID_19 was and is going to be seismic.

 

True - But the impact is greater because we were slow to get mass testing, slow to lockdown properly, when we did lockdown, it was still a fairly relaxed one. Construction sites never had to close, shops like the range staying open because they sell a bit of confectionary, Argos staying open if it's within a Sainsburys.

 

Read this earlier on the subject too.

The global lockdown caused by Covid-19 risks a “devastating” surge in tuberculosis cases, with nearly 1.4 million additional deaths from the world’s biggest infectious killer by 2025, new research showed on Wednesday. New disease models showed that social distancing could lead to a disastrous rebound in TB infections – the effects of which are set to persist for years. This is because social distancing will make it impossible for health care workers to test vulnerable populations and for patients to access ongoing treatments.

 

I voted Conservative and do blame the government. It's made numerous ****-ups over Covid-19. The main one being it's reaction to the virus. People could have been told to go to their embassy. They could have been tested and quarantined. None of which happened until it was too late. They could have closed to borders, other than for import and export, they didn't.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8290353/ALEX-BRUMMER-Madness-45s-work-economy-burns.html

Ending lockdown doesn't have to mean everyone, at least not to begin with.

 

And who structured the economy in this way?

 

True.

 

Erm, TB is a bacterial infection spread in the same way as COVID. If people are social distancing and taking other measures to not contract COVID, they also won't contract TB - or am I missing something?

 

Completely agree (although New Labour also embraced it) but it doesn't change the impact COVID_19 is going to have now. The question is going to be how bold we are in seizing the opportunities to repurpose the economy to be fairer and more sustainable. But there's going to be a huge amount of suffering in the short term. We are certainly going to have to accept that some sectors aren't going to survive and be incredibly focused on what can or should be saved.

 

I assumed it was suggesting that in the poor countries where TB is still a large killer social distancing won't happen and it will still spread. As will Covid19, but due to restrictions they will struggle to access medical support.
Didn't day I understood in well enough to confirm it just that I found it interesting

 

Spoke with someone at work today who was telling me about his neighbour. Young couple and he described the guy as "nice but not very bright"
Spend the first few weeks of lockdown sat in the sun in the back garden. Beer in hand music on saying how good it was to not have to work and still get 80% pay.
Fast forward to this weekend and has received 45 day redundancy consultation period notice. Now worried about debts and mortgage and possibly no job. I'm sure he isn't alone. The economic fallout is yet to be felt yet. I hope it's not as bad as some of the projections I have read

 

So allowing the under 45’s out so they can go home and kill their relatives makes sense then?

 

I would imagine the policy will be yes as long as it is at a level that doesn't overwhelm the NHS. Of course no one is going to come out and say that.

 

Their intention is to persuade people to put pressure on to go back to work, then give them what they want and absolve themselves of blame when people die. Its the same people in the same papers, day after day, drip... drip... drip. But notice those people aren't going out and breaking the rules, putting themselves at risk. They are the kids who instigated trouble at school but stayed out of it themselves.

 

Save lives. End this lockdown, at least for the under 50s.

 

Can I ask genuinely, what you think the alternative to slowly easing the lockdown is?

 

Yeah boll0x to the over 50’s they can die.