Imagine being 18-25 age group

5k, 10k, doesn't matter, right?

 

What on earth is that answer supposed to say and how on earth does it relate to my post?

 

I'm not sure where I stand on this, but one point which hasn't been made is that easing restrictions wouldn't be automatically condemning old people to death. It would still be within their power to self isolate, particularly if shops ran vulnerable individuals shopping time.

 

Ow don't have a pop at me. No pits no heavy industries. no they don't have the same work options as me but they have the option to work hard & prosper. You do know who's to blame don't you? well apart from Corbyn.

 

I think we've got Enough of your take on life recently. To use your analogy you would be a waste of space in a lifeboat!

 

Most of this thread is very odd.

 

Why is your high horse in the sea near my lifeboat

 

All the hard work the unions did to get the workers a decent living & we've let all be blown away, watched & let it dwindle. zero hours, single time overtime, a could weep.

 

Me too my friend, but it's young people who are going to suffer for it most. I don't resent the older generation for the employment opportunities they had and, the rights they enjoyed, the free education, affordable housing, I'm glad they did, I just wish the younger generation could enjoy the same.

 

re Covid 19 - a lot of the 20-25 year olds are extremely worried about their parents grandparents.

 

Nice one.

Furthermore, you could point out to these 18-25s that they've not been locked up. They haven't been told that they can't go out and get some fresh air. They can get out quite freely now. The weather's been nice. They can drink as much as they like. They have been able to continue to play their video games with their mates, or watch telly, or facetime with their friends, or Youtube. Phone and text.

They are often still getting paid either 80% of their wage or fully paid for doing nothing. A fair few have carried on working anyway.

They haven't by virtue of their age had anywhere near the worry of being physically threatened by covid as those of more advanced years have. They haven't generally got underlying health conditions. They won't have got a letter telling them to stay inside for 3 months or more. They are generally safe enough. Not likely to die.

Most of us have had to go through a time when we were skint and couldn't afford to go out even if we wanted to. I can remember being miserable, but suicidal?

You just got on with it. (I sound a bit old don't I?)

 

I walked into work with these conditions , they were there from start of my working life and had them for a good twenty /twenty five years of my working life and we had to fight hard to try and keep them .
In the industries I entered after the pits shut we kept on trying to fight and it was the younger generation that wouldn’t because they had mortgages etc . The generation before me were mainly in social housing or pit houses where they wouldn’t be turfed out , our generation mostly had mortgages but we still fought in the miners strike and o know quite a few who lost their homes during the strike . Fortunately at the time they could fall back on social housing unlike nowadays .
So it’s not us oldies thats to blame , the establishment and the move to mortgages is one of the downfalls of the working class society of the past and why a lot of these benefits are not there .

 

Nail on head ^^^^^^^^^ all on em.

 

I'm 64 and I voted to remain as pretty well all of my friends (all 60s and 70s) and family. Although I came from a working class family (dad worked down the pit) myself and my friends are largely educated beyond A level or have people in their families married to or living with Europeans. These factors clearly account for their views.

However, the overwhelming majority of people I work with (at British Car Auctions), who are of a similar age to me, voted leave. I think the reason for this is that every day they see eastern Europeans working as agency staff in various parts of the business and they feel that the immigrants are taking their jobs. Totally wrong as I see it.

I certainly feel for the youngsters in all of this, they will have a hard time for sure.

 

I can fully understand why the younger generation would feel let down by older end - they no longer have Uni grants, final salary pensions. affordable housing, money from North sea oil etc etc. Now they will be faced with years austerity and lack of opportunities due to Brexit which the old folks selfishly voted for. These worked hard down pit types come across as completely self entitled,

 

I don't know where you came up with that load of tripe, are you a Daily Mail reader? Your statement is a real noodle scratcher.

 

I voted remain and I know loads that voted remain my age and older .
I know loads a lot younger than me some very young voted leave .
I wouldn’t go along with this consensus that all older people voted leave and all younguns voted remain because it’s wrong .

 

It's obviously not universally true, but the proportion of over 65s who voted leave was double that of 18-24 year olds.

 

totally agree but to listen to these younguns its not a statistic it’s a fact of life that all oldies voted against all younguns and we deserve to die an orrible death .
And some of them with real venom , and you know what happens with lynch mob mentality .