Judy Mikovits

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  1. Dav

    DavidCurriesMullet Well-Known Member

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    By now most of you will know I'm a socialist who likes to follow evidence. What happens if someone who on the surface appears to be an extremely gift scientist, releases findings and is then is basically thrown to the wolves. She was arrested, imprisoned, basically hounded out of her profession and now deplatformed.

    I'm not saying if she is right or wrong. In the past 2 days I've watched interviews with her via London Real, her colleagues and JFK's nephew. She's been called an antivaxer, though she spent her entire life trying to find vaccines namely for AIDS.

    I'm not a tin foil hat kinda of person, I watched I listened, was compelled by her and was made to feel extremely uneasy and worried by what she presented. It's opened my eyes to what others have been arguing against.

    I'm pretty sure I had Covid, I took Doxycycline which can be used to fend off malaria for 4 weeks.
    Anti malaria drugs were found to be beneficial in the fights against CV 2 SARS and Ebola.
    I'M NOT SAYING TRUMP IS RIGHT OR A GENIUS.
    I'm still taking steroids and now 11 weeks later feel better, and I now have a asthma pump. Thankfully never hospitalised.

    Judy raises serious issues around drug patents, and how universities in the States hoard them for profit. She also mentions vaccine compensation schemes.

    Again I'm not promoting her or her views, just saying I found her arguments detailed and worth a few hours of my time.
     
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    There are some really good articles out there that explain in detail why Miktovits should be treated with a huge pinch of salt, in my opinion, but make up your own mind. Her big paper published in a top journal (the one that gives her such kudos) was shown to be flawed. She detected rare DNA strands in some samples she was working on and therefore indicate a link between this DNA and chronic fatigue syndrome. Many leading groups then tried unsuccessfully to replicate the experiments. This paper has subsequently (a) been shown to be untrue (it turns out that her glassware was contaminated by this DNA from other work going on in the labs - https://science.sciencemag.org/content/sci/333/6050/1694.full.pdf) and (b) been withdrawn from the prestigious journal it appeared in. She's apparently not published anything in a peer reviewed journal since 2012, which for an academic is like not scoring a goal since 2012. Check the article below, the source is trustworthy.

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...sial-virologist-attacking-anthony-fauci-viral

    Her arguments are detailed, but the general public are not armed with the resources (e.g. access to appropriate journal resources etc.) to dispute them. Make up your own mind.
     
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    She seems to argue that she's been hampered (jailed on dubious grounds etc) in the past from being able to replicate the studies/experiments she'd carried out. She also alluded to leading scientists stealing her work and bastardising it. The latest interview with her via London Real is a rebuttal of the sciencemags debunking article.
    Like I've said two sides to every story, it's just weird she's been attacked and silenced in such a way. If she was wrong surely providing her a platform to be corrected on this is the best and most professional way to go. Deplatforming and legally silencing her until last year seems counter productive and gives her more of an audience (me daft lad from Priory School).
    She's a scientist not Nick Griffin so legitimate debate would/should have been attainable.
    Though providing Griffin a platform did show him up for what he was.
     
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    Andrew Wakefield did a lot of harm. I wish he'd been denied a platform.
     
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    Would that be the same London Real that gave David Icke a platform to explain his views on the 5g link to corona virus?

    I don't see what a news wing of a respected scientific journal has to gain by persecuting an individual. I can see how publicity might sell a book.
     
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    David Icke.....visionary.
     
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    That's one word for him, but I'd go with "mentalist"
     
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    Like I've said I've NO dog in this fight, just found some things uneasy especially the 4 billion paid out for vaccine related law suits.
     
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    It averages out at just over 1 award of compensation per million vaccinations. Penn and Teller deal with this subject well:

     

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