Barnsley warn they will “not accept relegation” in furious letter to EFL

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  1. Hicksy

    Hicksy Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Rightly so imo , sick of these cheats getting way with it season after season .
     
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    Book em Danno! Go for the throat we've nowt to lose.
     
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    Glad to hear it. Whatever our owners motivations and plans are I would be very disappointed if we as a club just rolled over and accepted it.
     
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    I am hoping that they go with this if we get relegated, especially if the EFL use the PPG scenario to decide it. The EFL need to be held to account, as they have shown that they are not fit for purpose
     
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    wht if the EFL just kick us out then ?
     
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    Join the Scottish league?
     
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    We play by the rules & the cheating b@stards get away with it! no foookin way. We must stand up & be counted, We are Barnsley, we are red. Fck this inferiorty complex b0llox, go get em.
     
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    They can't.
     
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    How does the Guardian get to see this letter for starters.
    is the EFL passing them on to newspapers or Conway sending them to newspapers.

    it is apparently going to cost clubs 200-500 thousand to restart games due to testing etc.
    If the season doesn't restart championship clubs have to pay back 200 million to the TV and sponsor companies.
    4.8 million each which i am presuming none of them actually have lying around

    Anybody who thinks he is doing it for "Barnsley " is deluded.
    its all about the investors ,himself and there investment which has gone south.
    who is going to buy a club in this climate , most are practically worthless at this point.

    who is paying for this legal action ,the investors certainly wont be.
    thought Conway said we are in the red now.
    which is odd as thought they running the club properly and some of the transfer monies were being put away for the future of the club
    hopefully they win. personally think the odds of that are nil
    but if they don't win wheres the money coming from to pay the legal costs which would be huge.

    my best guess would be they are trying to put pressure on the EFL for compensation without actually going through the legal process.
    incredibly unlikely to work as it would set a legal precedent.
     
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    Hearts fans are suggesting the opposite, them joining the English league cos of being dumped on by the SPFL!
     
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    All a bit negative - that post.

    Presumably you think we should just do as we're told.
     
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    Let's join the Scottish League. Imagine the headlines I 2030"" Mighty Barnsley win record 10 in a row"
    Non league standard most of it, Sorry Ian
     
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    I make certain assumptions about how these things work, and if I'm wrong no doubt folks on here will contradict me. I assume for one that before the season starts the Championship clubs enter in to a contract with EFL about how governance issues will be determined. I assume secondly that that contract makes some provision for the clubs themselves to decide by voting how different situations will be resolved. The EFL at the moment has only put a proposal to the clubs and that they must vote as to whether to accept that proposal. I find it difficult to see how Mr Conway will get behind that structure and successfully sue the EFL if the outcome is not the one he seeks. There is an outstanding issue in terms of how alleged breaches of FFP (or similar) will operate in regard to three clubs in particular. Those issues will, by their nature be contested by the clubs concerned, and I suspect that the issues will take a considerable time to resolve. Not ideal, but every club/organisation is able to claim the benefit of due process, and that is almost certain to delay things. There is, in any event no certainty that those issues will be resolved in the short, medium or long term in a way that would negate the points disadavantage that our performances thus far this season have attracted,

    More widely, I find it disingenuous that Mr Conway seeks to go down this road given that it is the Board and his own actions that have led to the situation where we sit seven points away from safety in the Championship. They failed to preserve the integrity of our promotion squad, let alone bring in other players who might enhance it. The long and short of it is that we decided as a club not to pay the wages commensurate with a club that wishes to consolidate it's position as an established Championship club. That was, after all the stated aim of Mr Conway and his colleagues upon taking control of the club. The fans have been short-changed and in my view the proposed legal action is nothing but baying in the wind. Others will have their own view.
     
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    Not far off.
     
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    The club do right to point out the hypocrisy of the EFL regarding the ‘integrity’ issues. Integrity when it suits as I see it. As far as recruitment and selling players, I for one thought it was stupid to sell certain players until at least January anyway. I disagreed with sheer volume of recruitment and retention.
    and thought it was a big gamble. However, I do not believe for 1 moment the board thought they were Jeopardising their club’s Championship status this season and that they firmly believed we would be at least ok. Therefore their integrity is not in question, it’s more than likely it’s their perception and judgement of the task in hand what’s in question. I hope our club fight this injustice of FFP, It’s about time it came to a head in any case.
     
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    So, we have the meanest defence in League One. The Championship is, on anyone's account a big step up. We sell the established back two pairing and the captain and goalkeeper. For good measure, we sell the joint leading goal scorer. And yet we "do not believe for 1 moment the board thought they were Jeopardising their club’s Championship status this season and that they firmly believed we would be at least ok." I don't wish in any way to disrespect your opinion (which is as valid as mine) but was that a realistic view for the Board to take? We supposedly have people who are ace with statistics and analysis. They could not have held the view that the team would not be weakened whilst entering into a more demanding division. If they did then one has to question their competence. If they were aware (as seems more likely) that we would be found a bit short then the Board's judgement has to come into question on any objective view of the matter?
     
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    why
     
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    Show me their rule which says they can.
     
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    If Leeds, West Brom and the Playoff winners donated 7M apiece [21M] to the three relegated clubs they'd still get their 190M bounty from joining the Premier league. Might be worth it to secure their promotion without hassle.
     

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