Dominic Cummings

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  1. Dav

    DavidCurriesMullet Well-Known Member

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    Would have been liable to a fixed penalty notice then? Like many others who've fallen foul of breaking lockdown rules.
    It still remains the same; the guy making the rules broke them no matter how minor.
     
    DavidCurriesMullet, May 28, 2020
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    Just imagine still trying to defend the government.

    I wish them well.
     
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    I think Yvette Cooper explained the situation pretty well yesterday.

    65k excess deaths due to Covid and counting, what a success!!!
     
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    I certainly have the opposite view of her after she got me a life time Twitter ban for calling Johnson and Cummings cnuts in a tweet during the last election. She's so far up Johnson's arse she can touch his tonsils from the rear entry.
     
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    According to some, as a country we did worse due to decisions made by the PM, Health Minister and signed off by cabinet than we would have done without any leadership just letting the civil service following the existing guidelines that worked so well for MERS. But, we (Cummings, Johnson & Hancock) knew better and look what happened.

    Superforecasting genius or idiot missing his village?
     
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    Yes and they'd just love us all to move on and forget it ever happened but for the sake of the over 60000 people who have lost their lives because we have a glove puppet of a PM and a self obsessed self entitled puppeteer running the country and getting the handling of this crisis badly wrong, we must not forgive or forget and keep it in people minds until the next GE and give them the kicking they deserve.
     
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    As surely as night follows day - who would have predicted this


    I shot the sheriff
    But I didnt kill no deputy

    See not responsible for killing the deputy - no case to answer move along
     
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    Do you think if they’d concluded there was NO breach they’d have said MIGHT?

    If they’d stated there HAD been a breach, they’d have to charge him.

    Its semantics on purpose, this isn’t a BoJo statement that just bumbled out, this is a carefully crafted statement written by communication professionals.
     
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    Breaching these rules is a fixed penalty not a criminal charge- keep up
     
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    Failure to pay or accept a fixed penalty notice results in a court appearance and more likely than not a criminal record.
    Accepting a fixed penalty notice is accepting you broke the law.
    Let's not forget if Mr Cummings had been stopped and mentioned he was trying his eyes out to drive, I like many current or ex colleagues would have nicked him under Road Traffic Act offences.
     
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    I'll ask you one simple question. We'll take all the semantics and questions of legality out of it.
    Was Cummings morally right to do what he did?

    Oh...and a follow up. Do you believe he drove to Barnard Castle to test his eyesight?
     
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    It's a criminal offence to breach the regulations.
     
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    The 1988 Road Traffic Act says: "If a person drives a motor vehicle on a road while his eyesight is such (whether through a defect which cannot be, or one which is not for the time being, sufficiently corrected) that he cannot comply with any requirement as to eyesight prescribed under this Part of this Act for the purposes of tests of competence to drive, he is guilty of an offence." The Highway Code says: "You MUST report to the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) any health condition likely to affect your driving."

    According to Cummins he had severe symptoms of the most devastating deadly virus in decades, his wife wrote that he was suffering leg spasms, he admitted he had vision problems and didn't know if he was fit to drive.

    Just arrest the maggot
     
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    See above.

    my favourite slant is that you’re a patronising two hat when you think you’re right. Even when you’re completely wrong.

    What have these people done for you that deserves you’re undying loyalty?
     
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    But come on we all know that there was nothing wrong with his eyesight.
    I dont believe He would drive his Mrs and kid for 45 minute drive if there really was any problem with it
    It was a birthday trip for his wife a clear breach of the regulations - and had the police stopped him he would have been given advice to return home - which is sensible policing rather than fining someone for a first offence. Slightly surprised he couldnt think of a better lie to cover his trip there though, unless it was deliberate to get people talking about that - which isnt provable now after all his eyesight was fine or he wouldnt have driven so far. Rather than the fact he broke both the spirit and letter of the regulations
     
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    Another way of looking at the entire issue is to ask a couple of really simple questions.
    1. Is Cummings a complete nob?
    2. Is he an arrogant sod?

    Depending on one's answers to these simple questions will, in part reveal what kind of person YOU are.
     
    KamikazeCo-Pilot, May 28, 2020
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    No to both, hes just a pathetic little lovely person*
     
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    Durham Constabulary seem to have same opinion on this offence as me. So I will take their view over yours, but won’t resort to name calling. I stick to facts rather than what ifs.
     
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    What would be a better lie? Without getting caught out deeper and further?

    He's bang to rights with the Barnard Castle trip.

    Boris won't get away with this. We just won't forget.
     
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