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  1. BarnsleyReds

    BarnsleyReds Well-Known Member

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    I’m sorry, but I don’t see why someone living out of the country should get a say in how the country they don’t live in is run. Can you give a valid reason for that?
     
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    She would only be allowed to vote in one constituency - it is usually the one where they are registered as a candidate. Students can register in two places, and vote in the one where they are living on election day.
     
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    A significant number of British people using FoM to live/work in the EU have effectively been disenfranchised by recent votes in the UK, and as well as losing their right to vote, it causes significant stress and limits their ability to continue to live and work there they are based - and many have had to give up their British citizenship to continue living/working where they are.
     
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    Tonjytyke Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for that.
     
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    Because a) for many people living working or retired abroad the UK Govt can make decisions that still impacts on their lives (see examples in my apology post to TM.) Also, not all people will remain abroad and some return to the UK after a number of years for change of personal circumstances, changes in employment. In the interim period it is not unreasonable for those people to have a say in the direction a Govt. is taking the country in.

    Being domiciled in a country as a resident does not entitle a person to vote in that country and removing the vote of a citizen in his country of birth would mean he has no vote anywhere. Please also be aware, even when domiciled outside the UK ex-pats are still subject to UK taxation etc. on certain income generated in the UK e.g. Public Pensions. leaving the UK does not exempt expats from every liability.

    Furthermore, as an extreme example... say a radical Party decided to campaign at a GE to scrap the state pension for people not domiciled in the UK, would you argue that expats would have absolutely no say or influence in voting against that party? Any group of UK citizens in a Global economy wherever they are based should still have some ability to influence a Govt when that Govt making decisions that can have a direct impact their lives.

    Incidentally the current debate being raised in Parliament is not about removing the vote entirely for ex-pats but scrapping the 15 year time frame so the vote remains for the entire duration a person is living outside the UK.
     
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    Fair points, thank you for explaining.
     
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    Sorry only just seen this. I don't want to get drawn into another Brexit debate. Actually, both my son-in-law and my daughter voted remain as is they are fully entitled to do. It is their view that they wanted to remain and believe it was better for them. At the risk of invoking a 'Turkeys for Xmas' response, we voted Leave here based on what we genuinely believed was, whilst in the short/medium term a bad thing, it would be best long term for the UK the way things are heading here in Eurozone. Obviously we discussed it at the time, agreed to differ, and drew a line under the debate.
     
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    62 UK hospital deaths today. 59 for England, 3 for Wales and nothing for Scotland or Northern Ireland. NI are down to three deaths in the past five days.

    https://news.sky.com/story/the-coro...oups-are-dying-more-than-they-should-12000643

    Apparently it was reported on Sky News that 262 of our total deaths of the under 65s didn't have an underlying health condition.
     

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