But what about the Bank Holiday second spike????

It indicates that not locking down and going for some sort of herd immunity idea is flawed and just increases the amount of people who die without actually giving you any sort of immunity. It gives you the sort of death rate that compares unfavourably to your neighbours.

 

i’d say crack on. Who hasn’t occasionally repeated something in good faith that turned out to be incorrect.

I repeated something from a usually reliable source that was partially correct and partially incorrect. The numbers were right as the data from ONS shows but the age demographic was way out. For context at the time I was organising the building of pop up mortuaries across the country and my partner was working in ICU so I was pretty stressed but should have checked the source more thoroughly.

 

The volte face on here from people who you wouldn’t expect to buy into the alt right idea that capitalism is more important than people is quite something to see.

 

You’ve confused capitalism with wanting to avoid total societal breakdown, but good try.

 

Just to show how little those in charge know about the R number when it's a lot of guess work due to lack of testing, it was only last week MSM were saying Yorkshire was the worst part of the country and yet now we are the safest based on R.

 

Here we go, when the argument gets difficult instead of engaging properly you resort to trying to shoehorn an argument about lockdown strategy into putting people in a pigeonhole of racism or right wing ideology. Is it alt-right for me to care about the loss of children’s esucation? Is it right wing of me to care about the 5 million low paid workers who are going to be jobless because of the Government strategy?

I’ll tell you what’s right wing. Supporting shutting the country down to look after your own health because you’re rich enough to ride out an economic depression and f*ck all the consequences for everyone else. I’m alright Jack. You’re a true child of Thatcher.

You keep on towing Fat Boris and Hancock’s party line like a good Tory.

 

While you propose the i'm alright jack philosophy of people carrying on working and staying wealthy while they endanger the health of others.
I'd stick to putting up the stupid cartoons.

 

Maybe just maybe Labour, like Ireland, might have supported the lower paid workers to stay at home and be "safe".

 

Here we go again. I’ll try not to use any long words. What I’m advocating is protecting the vulnerable and elderly, and letting those much less at risk carry on. Please explain how that endangers the health of a vulnerable person if they’re locking down. Here’s a stupid cartoon to summarise your viewpoint seeing as you’re such a fan:

 

I'll make it very simple too.
There was no way of protecting the vulnerable and elderly without a full lockdown. That was done. Belatedly.
The peak was averted. We can now carefully exit the lockdown.
Every country in the world has done it (more or less) because they all saw the sense in it.
Bar you and a few others.

 

Not sending people suffering from Covid back into care homes would have been a good start .

 

I don't think that's a very fair assessment of the viewpoint these posters are trying to get across. We live in a capitalist society and it's perfectly possible to wish it were otherwise while still accepting that we need to keep that society operating in a sustainable way. If there's a tiger in the room and one lacks the ammunition to shoot it, it's advisable to feed it.

 

Tell you the most interesting thing from this thread- the R Rate figures that DB3000 posted. We've been told the R Rate us between 0.5-0.9 when basically it's 0.9.

That's like me saying that I've put on between 50-90 pounds this lockdown when I've put on 90 pounds.

 

Fat git.

 

I was thinking more about what it indicates going forward.

 

That's it. I'm reporting you.

 

Most people care about the above mentioned. A lot of people appear to be 'caring' more though, those with personal agendas.
This government has ***** up. The lockdown was too late and not stringent enough. That is why we are in the shitty position we are in right now. The French, Spanish, Italians and Greeks on the other hand bought into lockdown and adhered to it: miles and miles in front of us. Did these people's bleat about the social/eco consequences of lockdown? I'm sure many did yet they stuck with it. We havn't stuck with it because it was important that Bob went to B&Q to buy some paint for his fence. He would have died otherwise.
I'm sure you'll be happy to know that the pub's are being opened back up on July 4th.
Cheers

 

No No the shame. Go on then.

 

with apologies in advance for raising the tone of this thread.

Fat Git (urban Dictionary) The Legend of The Fatgit

An enormous man weighing 500 stone with the fat of 50 sumo wrestlers who wanders the Highlands of Scotland at night looking for somewhere to have s**t !

 

Haha - You Reds.