Protesters

He's English isn't he?

 

Exactly

 

Yes he is but that doesn't stop some people saying that I'm tired out, feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall. Just imagine how tired those are of having these " discussions" who meet with racism every day of their lived
Yes, we can be thankful we live the lives we lead on the back of our colonial past. No we werent directly responsible, but we are responsible to how we respond to its repercussions now! Is it so hard to accept the points BLM make?

 

But people have died and are still dying of an awful disease until a vaccine is found and it is a disease like racism but racism is not being helped by the violence and destruction or the spread of the other disease which you call just a virus. There is a time and place for everything and I am afraid the time is not now for these gatherings or there will be no one to fight racism or indeed fight for. As you say the BAME community is most at risk so for everyone a sake please think

 

It's the ''They came here and.....fill in the blanks'....argument now saying; ''They now want our understanding, sympathy, empathy and to be treated the same''.

 

Sorry RH but from the outset I’ve supported the anti racist cause but opposed the demonstrations on the basis that mass gatherings however much you may wish to justify them aren't a great idea during this pandemic. I then got its ok for folk to pack the beaches but you only object to BLM marches - ‘wonder why’. I’ve objected to them all on the same basis. I say again, objecting to the demonstrations, any demonstrations doesn't mean you’re not opposed to racism, it just means you’re less selfish than the bandwagon jumpers that go on them. All lives matter, and how many lives have now been compromised so that Timmy and Tricia can plaster it all over facebook that they were there and are therefore more worthy than those who had the good sense to stay at home- as we should.

 

I'm not happy about the mass gatherings due to Covid, but this issue can't be ignored.

Maybe we should all write a letter to the now disbanded Minneapolis police department saying they should have killed Mr Floyd after lockdown cos it's caused a lot of disruption to our very loose lockdown.

 

I accept that you have been against mass gatherings for whatever reason.
I think if you werent on the protest you wont necessarily know whether people were there only for likes on instagram, I have a feeling not because it's a lot easier just to put a " right on" post.and get those likes.

Like it or not this govt eased the lockdown, people started to congregate for social reasons beyond the actual guidelines

 

there are better ways to protest not long ago Stirling was involved in an England match which was nearly stopped because of racism and in my opinion he did not let the racists win he chose to carry on with the game. But this violent protesting is just bringing everyone involved down to the racists level as is saying that coronavirus isn't as bad as racism. Of course it is anything that kills is bad

 

At abolition, the British government (Whigs) compensated slave owners to the equivalent of £300 BILLION in todays money, the debt was only fully paid off in 2015. There was a magic money tree even in those days.

 

said without a hint of irony at the hell suffered by BAME for hundreds of years. talk about entitled bullshjt.

 

The lockdown no longer exists; folk gathered on beaches and got bollocked for it by folk like me and you.
However these protests have been coming for years. The timing isn't great but Minneapolis happened. In our own country racial tensions have been growing, it's been a melting pot. Racists like Farage and Tommy Robinson have been given a voice. Our own government have presided over the Grenfell and Windrush scandals both of which related to race, poverty and lack of social standing.
The timing is crap but here we are; it's time we all looked at how this country is put together before austerity on steroids is imposed post Covid.

 

This fact made me feel sick to my stomach. We've all been paying towards the compensation out of our taxes.

 

Yep, the rich getting bailed out - who'd have thought it.

 

Not only the rich.

Slave-ownership wasn't confined to the upper classes: an enslaved person was considered a sound investment. In 1833, middle class people including clergymen, naval personnel and people who had returned from the colonies were all slave-owners. Some purchased enslaved people, others acquired them through inheritance or marriage. Their value was based on skills, gender, age, health and the profitability of the plantation where they worked.

 

Most of the establishment in the UK made money from the exploitation of people in the slave trade or the exploitation of the local population by forcing them to work in dangerous conditions for a pittance - and quite a few of their descendants would be happy to return to that state.

 

My Grandmother was in the service. Is that what took over from the slave trade?

 

Also worth pointing out that the 1833 bill didn't completely abolish slavery in the Empire - it was still allowed in St Helena and the East India Company in Sri Lanka.

The UK (contrary to some viewpoints) wasn't the first country to ban the slave trade (Denmark-Norway did in 1802), or to abolish slaves (Greece, Uruguay, Bolivia & others did in 1830-3). It was 1843 before slavery was finally abolished everywhere in the British Empire.

 

Hah! You beat me to it.....I dont know if any of Saville's statues etc were defaced etc., but I cant imagine anyone on here would have given a toss had they been treated in the same way.