Shielding

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  1. SuperTyke

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    I don't need a man in a suit to tell me not to lay down in the middle lane of the M1 because common sense tells me I will probably die

    If anyone knows they are a vulnerable person and they are highly likely to die if they catch covid-19 but decide to go out and about without a care in the world because a man in a suit isn't telling them it's a bad idea then frankly I've got very little sympathy for them if the worst happens. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN LIFE!!!

    Millions of jobs have been put at risk to protect YOU
    Homes have been put at risk to protect YOU
    People have died from suicide, domestic violence, untreated and undiagnosed cancer and many other things to protect YOU
    Millions of people have sacrificed so much for months to protect YOU.
    If you are so selfish that you don't appreciate all those sacrifices then I have no words.

    Take responsibility for your own life. Take precautions to protect your life. We've all sacrificed so much to give you the opportunity to stay alive, don't throw that away just because youre allowed to
     
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    What happens if employers say that the government says they are no longer at risk as they are no longer advising them to shield so they have to go into work or be sacked? A lass at work is type 1 diabetic, thankfully our employers are understanding but even so I wonder how long she will be allowed to stay at home for, on full pay if everyone else is back to normal. It's very hard for people to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN LIFE!!! if they have no wage and are unable to leave the house.
     
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    I fully understand those who have to go out for reasons like that but they should still be taking responsibility and being extra cautious. Remember that employers must enforce social distancing at work and if an employee feels they are being asked to undertake unsafe work then they are well within their rights to refuse.
     
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    Were you not protecting YOU at the start of this in the early months
     
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    Already seen anecdotal stories of people being sacked for refusing to go back into an office when they have been working from home without issue since the start and the government advice was not to go into work.
     
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    Then those people will be getting a fair bit richer when they successfully sue for unfair dismissal. The government have been clear on whose side they will favour
     
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    As a fit and healthy youngish person with a very very low chance of dying from it then no, I was risking my home to protect the vulnerable.
     
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    But it was weeks before figures of whom were the most vulnerable were being talked abart.
     
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    It was obvious who was more vulnerable long before we had any lockdown in the UK.
     
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    Not to me it weren`t. So you must have voiced your opinion on here before lockdown telling us all it was an oldies virus then. Not saying you didn`t but I can`t remember it.

    Just seems to me there is a bit of hindsight and a bit of that young v old mixed in here.
     
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    Yes I did. I think you're forgetting the timeline of what's happened. Mother's Day was before lockdown remember.

    Also it's not an old v young thing it's a 'i risked my home to save your life. Do not be so selfish that you waste that'.
     
  12. Mrs

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    I do hope that is isn`t personal to me.
     
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    The last bit you mean? Of course not. The your and you was referring to those who know they are extremely vulnerable.
     
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    My old pal wasn't vulnerable but spent 3 weeks in intensive care until he died: please let's not forget that a lot of people who weren't deemed vulnerable have died.
     
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    Oh I know HR. It's absolutely terrible that some people have died for seemingly no logical reason but despite those sad deaths it's still the case that the risk is really small. Really small but obviously still there.
     
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    Unfortunately, with the removal of legal aid for employment tribunals it is much more difficult (and expensive) to sue for unfair dismissal. They could well win if they sue, but might not have the time, money, knowledge or energy to do so.

    And if the company wraps it up as a redundancy they've got nowhere to go - look at BA sacking 12000 and employing them on worse terms.
     
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