Now that’s what you call an injustice

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by Barnsley Loyal, Jul 3, 2020.

  1. noksucow

    noksucow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2019
    Messages:
    746
    Likes Received:
    515
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Imo trashing the statute is far worse than peeing in the street .....that's my shout anyway whether it right or wrong
     
  2. TitusMagee

    TitusMagee Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2018
    Messages:
    8,770
    Likes Received:
    13,592
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Silkstone Common
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Nice to see you being your usual self on here too :)
     
  3. Ste

    Stephen Dawson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2018
    Messages:
    34,222
    Likes Received:
    29,564
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    You've just had your ticket for the concert for Bangladesh revoked :D
     
    Selby Red and Carlycu5tard like this.
  4. MonkeyRed

    MonkeyRed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2012
    Messages:
    2,512
    Likes Received:
    2,870
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Bratfud
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    We're talking about a man who peed on a memorial to a policeman killed by a terrorist.
     
  5. Ste

    Stephen Dawson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2018
    Messages:
    34,222
    Likes Received:
    29,564
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    It should be classed as consecrated ground.
     
  6. YT

    YT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2020
    Messages:
    4,013
    Likes Received:
    16,244
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Removing a statue of a man who was pivotal in the trading of other human beings as 'property' wasn't wrong in any normal person's mind. There shouldn't be monuments celebrating such things.

    There should however, be monuments celebrating the lives of police officers murdered in the line of duty.

    To urinate in public is bad enough, but to urinate on or right next to the memorial of Keith Palmer is beyond wrong.

    I can happily listen to and understand, even agree with those who removed that slaver's statue. My mind allows that, as it's a normal thought-process.

    I can't for the life of me understand the reasoning behind the actions of the scumbag who took a píss at that memorial. I wouldn't even want to look at the idiot, never mind hear its excuse.
     
  7. Marlon

    Marlon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    23,677
    Likes Received:
    14,562
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    HERE.
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    It wrong
     
  8. Gud

    GudjonFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    4,615
    Likes Received:
    405
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    The Sanctuary of the 18 Yard Line
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    The plinth has almost certainly been damaged (and may need to be made safe). Also, there is the cost of recovering the statue. None of that work would have needed to be done had the statue still been in place.

    How does this all work when the “damage” was caused by several individuals?
     
  9. pompey_red

    pompey_red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2005
    Messages:
    13,465
    Likes Received:
    9,455
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Fareham
    Home Page:
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    its wrong. you are wrong. it wont make you change your mind however. so whats the point.
     
  10. man

    mansfield_red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Messages:
    10,181
    Likes Received:
    16,736
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I wonder how many of those bleating about criminal damage might change their attitudes if it had been a statue of Thatcher in Barnsley that had been pulled down, even though her actions were many orders of magnitude less objectionable than slavery...
     
  11. MonkeyRed

    MonkeyRed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2012
    Messages:
    2,512
    Likes Received:
    2,870
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Bratfud
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Or if the chap urinating on a memorial to a white policeman murdered by an Islamic terrorist was brown skinned...
     
  12. Carlycu5tard

    Carlycu5tard Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    947
    Likes Received:
    358
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Wombwell
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Hmmmmm. ok.
     
  13. Carlycu5tard

    Carlycu5tard Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    947
    Likes Received:
    358
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Wombwell
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Oh the irony
     
  14. DEETEE

    DEETEE Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    10,230
    Likes Received:
    2,188
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    You are comparing apples and pears between the two offences.

    The bloke pissing, regardless of the memorial was in full view of the general public hence the charge.

    The statue, criminal damage although I am very surprised there isnt any public order offences against him nor can I understand the anonymity.

    Plus side, there has been a few identified from footage who have already lost their internships etc with businesses who disagreed with the actions of the mob.

    Regardless of however you view Colston and his statue there are ways and means of doing things in the UK. Mob rule isnt the way to do things. As a guess the vast majority of people on here agreeing with the statues removal were until it made the news either unaware of its existence or had little or no opinion on it at all.

    If the historical significance of a statue causes offence you act like a grown up and discuss rationalise and come to a general consensus of what do with it. Not allow a howling mob of mostly middle class white kids to run amock.

    Otherwise where does it stop?

    And where would you stand if a mob went and pulled down the statue of Mandela?
     
  15. Carlycu5tard

    Carlycu5tard Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    947
    Likes Received:
    358
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Wombwell
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Shouting out the hypocrisy and double standards of the libernazi's and woke sjw (p)ricks. too ******* right.
     
    wilko88 and Selby Red like this.
  16. Carlycu5tard

    Carlycu5tard Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    947
    Likes Received:
    358
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Wombwell
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)

    not just on here - in fecking Bristol

    A petition for it's removal gathered 103 signatures in 3 years.

    Hardly a public outcry.
     
    noksucow likes this.
  17. upt

    upthecolliers Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2015
    Messages:
    2,513
    Likes Received:
    2,905
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Barnsley
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    The people of Bristol (taxpayers) voted to have the monument taken down, long before BLM came into the equation so now they have got this statue who was an excuse for a human being back what the **** are they going to do with it.
     
  18. lk3

    lk311 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2016
    Messages:
    9,217
    Likes Received:
    7,576
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Still waiting for the demands for statues of John Locke and Samuel Pepys to be demanded to be pulled down.
    Strangely nobody objects to them
     
  19. upt

    upthecolliers Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2015
    Messages:
    2,513
    Likes Received:
    2,905
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Barnsley
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Sorry pal but thats not true.
     
  20. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2008
    Messages:
    40,155
    Likes Received:
    7,177
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Project Manager
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I agree with the broader point but I don't agree with mob rule, I unequivocally support the rule of law. You cannot turn a blind eye just because you agree with the outcome or support the cause of those involved. The ends should never justify the means when it comes to criminal damage and mob rule. The statue should have been removed, put into a museum and fitted with a second inscription detailing exactly how he made his money. Allowing mob rule to go unpunished is a slippery slope - what happens when a mob does something that you don't agree with? Because that is what happens; one side see another side doing something and think well if it is OK for them then it must be OK for me to do it.

    I also agree re: the idiot who took a p*** next to the memorial of a murdered policeman. I said at the time I didn't agree with him going to jail because it set a precedent, and now we are seeing the parallels being drawn. I don't think he had a clue what he was doing, he had drunk so much he just thought he was taking a leak and had no idea what was next to him. That isn't defending him, I think he was a moron.
     

Share This Page