What about the close to £100 million owner investment or whatever silly number it was? That's not the same methodology, which was my point.
As a club though do we have to sell players just in case another offer doesn't come in? Do we have to sell them and replace them with untried kids from Europe? Doe we have to sign them with the manager having limited involvement etc? I'd say you were defending them in your entire post really but as I said I understand why that is it isn't a criticism. One thing I would question though is do you actually know all the ins and out? For example did you know that the legal reasons excuse for refusing to talk to fans was untrue and would subsequently change to out of respect when Conway happily spilled all in Scotland? Again not a criticism at all but I don't trust these lot at all so I certainly wouldn't put it past them to hoodwink their employees.
Is that a fact? 70 million quid transfer profit in the last 5 years. mom not in the slightest saying that’s a good thing but if the stated aim is to do that at least they’ve done it whilst improving the team also, we’ve seemingly forgotten about that bit
latest accounts show Matthew Benham has put in £100.1m, that is in their latest accounts filed at Companies House.
The exact number, story, reasons, etc. were on here the last time this came up. If I was bothered I'd find it, but they threw some money at the project and gambled on it working - which it has. Big time.
they didn’t gamble on huge huge transfer fees though, wages must be high I admit, without that huge outlay it’s sustainable it appears. Better recruitment. Better raw material. Better results.
But with a £100 million investment. We don't have that luxury or the benefit of being a London club. Our squad isn't as bad as people are making out in this thread but I get that emotions and passions are high right now.
It’s not sustainable at all, wages are £19 million a year. 127% of Income. Figures show they made a profit on Player trading of £27 million, but the club was only in profit for £20 million. Now that sounds a lot, but 14 of that was from the sale of their existing ground. In short if they hadn’t sold the ground and sold players they would have huge losses
I'm having a night off from this particular argument, but it is nice to see that I have some very able understudies.
I think you give Brentford too much credit for being glamorous there mate, mind it’s nice down by the river! The 100 million invested is a handy smokescreen to hide behind a little? I’ve never heard anything about them flouting FFP (not that’s it’s fit for purpose) Have they just done what our board are trying but they’ve done it properly? We don’t have bad players, we do have players not equipped for the jobs and tasks being asked of them. That’s not their fault however, far from it.
I'm talking about ability to generate investment, sponsorship fees, probably ticket prices, etc. It's all more in London compared to us, so therefore your turnover is greater even if you're acting on a like for like basis. Others have nailed it in this thread anyway. Brentford aren't a like for like comparison in how we should run our club.
,TBF their commercial revenue, sponsorship etc is not great at 1.9 million(not including TV) But the min7te they get promotion that will rocket
Sophistication? I’ve been to Leeds! you are right of course (don’t tell Allan) London will always hold sway and have a greater pull, that’s not to say we don’t have our own unique attractions. What I’m saying about the model is right though, have they done it better by investing money they have available and got lucky or have they utilised funds available, built a very capable team and generated over 70 million quid in surplus fees. I’m not for one minute saying we should spoff 100 million though, that’s the key here!
I think the big difference is the same as Bristol, they get real market value for their players when they sell.
But they've smashed their wage bill to get some of those players to sign. Are you with me? We're not guilty of signing terrible players. We're guilty of not complimenting them with just one or two experienced players and being too rigid with the recruitment strategy until it was too late. Although we'll stay up, so maybe not too late.
yes that’s it exactly! better wages = better players. I knew you’d agree with me eventually We can’t spend what we don’t have, it’s very laudable and I absolutely admire the club for trying. But then we can’t be disappointed when league 1 players end up playing in league 1. And that brings me back to the board, they aren’t unhappy either, pound shop millionaires.
I think you've been drinking too much craft beer during lockdown ........... If the owners are all about the money, then surely they want these 'League One Players' to be successful so they can benefit from the gravy train that is quality Championship players? It makes no sense to think they're happy with relegation.