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  1. dreamboy3000

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    You can work from home and use different ways to see and hear your colleagues doing the same, so it's no different to being in a office for company. Meetings can be done through the likes of Zoom. Companies would save a lot of money on rental. Employees wouldn't pester them as much for a payrise because lifestyle would more than make up for it. Families with kids would save on childcare from all the school holidays and during term time they can take them to school and go back home to work.

    When it's the horrible winter months people will be happier getting up when it's still pitch black and freezing knowing they don't have to leave the house. As long as you do what's expected in the day then employers won't care the hours you work from home. For example you might instead of 9-5 in a office work 9:30 after dropping the kids off at school, work until 3ish, bring them home, make tea and then make up the other 2 1/2 hours later on finishing nearer 8pm but all your work still getting done.

    On top of childcare savings you would save on the ridiculous cost of public transport especially trains that go up far too much every January. You can save on the petrol prices that have gone up over ten pence a litre in little over a week. Instead of overpriced drinks from Starbucks, Costa and Cafe Nero that people like they can make a brew from home much cheaper. Instead of £3+ a day on a sandwich for dinner you can butter some bread in your kitchen and make one far cheaper.
     
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    They might. Employers also have a duty under H&S to supply a safe working area - including desk, chairs, monitors, etc if required. I have never bothered (happy to work in the kitchen), but MPs were given up to £10k to ensure their staff had the appropriate setup to work from home when the lockdown started.
     
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    I was in on the same charge.. But got away with it... Told the pit manager the deputy tells me to get on the belt and as soon as I do he tells me to get off... Infact I spend most shifts getting on and off the belt...
    The manager turned to the deputy and said if this is true Why do you do that....
    The deputy replied because he puts more muck on the belt with his boots than he does with the shovel....lol
     
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    When councils see business rates fall because the office blocks are empty where do you think the shortfall is coming from?

    Oh you work from home now, not communting, your £100 a month better off. Maximum council tax increase every year.

    Those empty sandwich shops, who is going to rent them if there is no footfall? You cant turn the majority of them into flats as you'll not get planning permission or they are unsuited for residential dwelling eg no parking ( which is a requirement for conversions in Barnsley).

    Once people stop commuting, what happens to the public transport infrastructure? No ones using buses now. So they'll get laid off, same with train drivers.

    If you no longer use child care, who employs the nannies etc?

    If you stop using cafes etc in town and they close, not only will insolvencies go up so will unemployment. All up the food chain.

    And lets not forget that if these buildings are empty, a large percentage of people can kiss goodbye to having a half decent pension...
     
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    https://www.kirklees.gov.uk/beta/huddersfield-blueprint/index.aspx

    https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news...-behind-huddersfields-250m-blueprint-18398597

    Changes happening here in Kirklees will happen all over the country. Our Piaza shopping centre is being knocked down to make more green area so the town centre has a vast area for concerts and picnics. Half a dozen streets around the town centre are being made cycle friendly to put more people off driving into the centre to shop.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-tape-driver-rebuild-Britain-create-jobs.html

    Boris in the above link said this.....

    In next 5-10 years most town and city centres will be like villages. Kirklees you will live in a town centre house or flat, take your family to a park/green area where the Piaza was and be able to go on family bike rides all around without worrying about cars. Some businesses will still be around and so I expect some will be able to live, work and eat out all in the centre so they don't ever have far to walk to be where they need to be. Daytime will be dead and reliant on people driving in on a evening to go to a bar or restaurant.
     
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    I wouldn't be against a tax placed on those of us working from home to make up the difference.

    Requirements can change if there's a need, can they not?

    If less people are commuting, more might choose to not have a car and use public transport more in their leisure time.

    Not everyone will be working from home. People will still need childcare.

    I often order food for my lunch and even breakfast during the day. I'm keeping the cafe and the delivery driver in a job. Look at me go.

    Investments can be moved.


    You've listed a lot of problems but no solutions. Working from home solves a lot of problems and causes problems, yes. Things change, you either move with them or get left behind, it's always been the way.
     
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    Always wondered why new developments like the Glasshouse don't have a lower level of shops/markets/coffee shops/bars, middle level of small office spaces, higher level of leisure (gym, cinema, etc) and top levels housing. Make it an attractive place to live and work, and people will want to live and work there - and it gives the shop owners a ready supply of shoppers.

    The old way has gone. It is probably not coming back.
     
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    It's very different. I assume you don't work in an office if you're saying that.

    I'm not a social butterfly but I have found the lack of human contact and just not leaving the house to be difficult and have a noticeably detrimental effect on my mood in the past few weeks.
     
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    You're focusing on the big chain cages though as forgetting that the small independent locally owned ones are also going to the wall
     
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    Scoff - The glass house development is multi use. Retail, Food and leisure as well as office space.
     
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    Its **** isnt it.
     
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    Largely Tory? Don’t kid thysen, all as bad as each other when they reach the front bench, self serving arseholes to a man/woman on both sides of the house.
     
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    I think if you work from home the thing you miss is when you’ve had a **** day there’s no one to whinge to who understands. Having said that I much prefer it principally cos I’m an anti social ****.
     
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    Also for me, the 45 minute journey back home was a good way to wind down. Get some decent tunes on in the car and by the time I got home, work was a distant memory. Never quite the same on the days I worked at home.
     
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    Employers will love this. Wait for wages to go down .Lack of support could well lead to mental health issues I think you're more likely to be expected to be "on call* 24 hours too.

    I can see the benefits but so many people live in terraced housing or flats where noise from other properties is a factor.
     
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    I don’t know why you think wages would go down due to home working; the logical conclusion is that they’d rise.

    Office space is the 2nd largest bill, and saving on that should mean more money for wages.
     
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    In your dreams. Any savings will go straight into the employersi Swiss bank accounts
     
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    As I said up in this thread when we switched to full remote working a few years ago everyone in the company got a pay rise (about 200 employees at the time) - we also got a one-off payment of I think it was $10,000 to set our environment up to make it safe. I was already remote, so already pretty well set up, but I used it to purchase a large desk that is able to rise up to use stood up, a nice chair, large monitors, a new laptop, a TV for my office and a decorator to paint the room.

    Not all employers are tax-dodging charlatans. Ones that care about their employees will continue to do so.

    I’m well aware how fortunate I am to work in a company that did this, and I know most companies won’t offer the ‘setup payment’. I struggle to see why you think wages will go down though? Even if the savings aren’t passed onto the employees, why would wages go down?

    I’m also not expected to be ‘on-call 24 hours a day’ like you said earlier, in fact I don’t have any set working hours. I’ll often get emails at all hours of the day, but there’s a difference between that and being expected to reply to them.
     
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    Sounds like you're in an extremely well paid job anyway. That's the thing, those higher up benefit from this, those lower down into dont
     
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    Wages will go down because be will have less overheads than when they commute so will be able to manage on less. Not in an office, you won't be able to know what others are earning so easily. Also.you used to get paid extra for Sunday working when shops opened but thats a thing of the past. Some people will benefit but I bet most don't.
     

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