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  1. Barnsley Chopin

    Barnsley Chopin Well-Known Member

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    Tbh id be content with us being fan owned and run, but you would imagine that league one would become our regular home and I doubt many on here would accept that.
     
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    Well we’re going to have to accept it with these shysters at the helm so what’s different?
     
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  3. Barnsley Chopin

    Barnsley Chopin Well-Known Member

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    What do you actually want from the club - to overspend like every other club in the league with money the club doesn't have?
     
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    You'd think that steady year on year improvement with the aim of getting into the premier League would be the ultimate cash cow/ ego trip for our owners.
     
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    Here we go again,the financial and football experts on here have got all the answers.Can,t see many of them knocking on the boards door with there cheque books.If we end up like Bury, Bolton,Charlton Wigan etc.I will gladly eat humble pie but until then i i will carry on watching the roller coaster ride of ups and downs we have witnessed over the years.
     
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    Maybe cynical I know but the whole donate tickets to NHS is a bit of smoke and mirrors in my view. There are more than enough empty seats at games to give NHS workers free tickets anyway and given they would otherwise be empty it wouldn't cost the club anything to do so. I think the idea is designed to capitalise on the positive feeling towards the NHS and give fans an alternative to asking for a refund which would cost the club money. I'd be surprised if the number of donated seats is ever used and I'll wager that there's no regular update on how many of the donated seats have been, how many remain outstanding etc. The idea isn't without virtue but the key driver is financial not altruistic.
     
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    Don't be silly. I would arrange all our evening fixtures for June. No floodlights required.
     
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    Bu
    In England? Does your user name mean you control the weather!!??
     
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    Portsmouth - bigger than us in every way you can think of - tried it, and weren't able to get out of League One.

    They ended up selling part of (or all of, I'm not sure) to a rich American bloke, and, as it happens, they still can't escape League One.

    The future as a community-owned club would be League One or Two.
     
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    Our future as a club owned by an international consortium of billionaires is at best League One, and it will be League Two if they think it's more profitable.
     
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    Red rain is coming down
    Red rain
    Red rain is pouring down
    Pouring down all over me
    I am standing up at the water's edge in my dream
    I cannot make a single sound as you scream
    It can't be that cold, the ground is still warm to touch
    We touch, this place is so quiet, sensing that storm
    Red rain is coming down
    Red rain
    Red rain is pouring down
    Pouring down all over me
    Well I've seen them buried in a sheltered place in this town
    They tell you that this rain can sting, and look down
    There is no blood around, see no sign of pain
    Hay ay ay no pain
    Seeing no red at all, see no rain
    Red rain is coming down
    Red rain
    Red rain is pouring down
    Pouring down all over me
    Red rain
    Ohhhh
    Putting the pressure on much harder now
    To return again and again
    Just let the red rain splash…
     
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    orsenkaht Well-Known Member

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    Peter Gabriel solo?

    Great taste. Phil Collins captured them and made them into purveyors of elevator music! :)
     
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    One of my favourites, was Peter.
     
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    As an aside Mr Rain, could you get on with Led Zeppelin? I mean solely in the context of Led Zeppelin and Led Zeppelin 2. I think they went off the reservation after that. But cripes! You probably can't say that any more. Re-education programme pending. I'm counting out time!
     
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    Sorry, I didn't enjoy Zep. It just sounded like noise as compared to Genesis etc.

    Did you ever hear of the Classic Rock Society based in Rotherham?
     
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    Yeah, Portsmouth sold out to the guy who used to run Disney land. Lad I worked at is a die hard blue and he said it was near impossible to get anything done, he paid about £5k for his share.
     
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    Indeed I did, having spent 18 years of my working life in Rotherham (plus another 2.5 years in my short-lived banking career). Friends of mine, Anne and Andy were aficionados, I believe. And I recall the legendary Steve Smith took an interest. Steve was acquainted with Rick Wakeman, he told me. But alas, I never received an introduction! I could have shown Rick a photograph of myself with long hair and a keyboard, aged 13, in a classic "Six Wives" Wakeman pose! :)
     
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  18. icer

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    Good points but didn't the owners negotiate an overdraft facility? So even when these cash flow timing issues they would do it through debt.
     
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    I used to attend regularly and went to 24 of their 25 gigs one year. I loved it, and I am still a fan of many of the acts that that organisation introduced me to. Tiger Moth Tales (Peter Jones) who I recently posted about was just one of those acts. Sadly, the CRS is no more, but a new organisation is trying to keep music live (Spirit of Progressive Rock), this time in Sheffield. They have as yet had very few gigs (at the Corporation), mainly as a result of Covid, but the people who run it have their hearts in the music I love, so I am crossing my fingers that they succeed.
     
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    If we were fan run, at least we’d know what our play were worth. At the moment we’ve got some fans accusing the club of money grabbing , and others accusing them of selling players on the cheap. In my book, those two scenarios don’t sit well together. The only way we’ll ever get the truth is if the owners tell us and I see little evidence pointing to that happening any time soon.
     
    Tonjytyke, Jul 13, 2020
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