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  1. Ton

    Tonjytyke Well-Known Member

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    that even considered for a split second putting the country’s IT capability in the hands of China wants f u c k I n g, and any government that thinks letting the Chinese build our next generation nuclear power stations is a good idea wants f u c k I n g with 14lb hammer shaft!
     
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    Barnsley Chopin Well-Known Member

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    The people voted for this govt, its exactly what they deserve.
     
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    Capitalism innit?
     
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    It isn't putting the countrys IT capacity into the hands of China. It is buying the best equipment to underpin the public 5G network. Chinese kit is significantly cheaper (and better) than the American equivalent and doesn't have the government mandated security backdoors.

    Cisco kit is made in China. iPhones are made in China. Many Android phones are made in China.

    Using Huawei kit does not offer significant risk to the average UK person and it wasn't going to be used for sensitive systems. Not using Huawei kit will cost us more in our ongoing mobile phone bills.
     
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    Tonjytyke Well-Known Member

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    Wonder why it’s being banned then,, USA pressure? I’ll get my 14lb er out!
     
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    Strong independent trading nation!

    We've ceased toadying to China only because we've been leant on by America!

    "Let's get going!" my arse!
     
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    bet your bottom dollar we’ve been leant on by a certain someone
     
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    Our government bows to whatever they're told to do
     
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    Merkel is currently resisting pressure from her own party to limit Huawei involvement in Germany.
     
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    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...ny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies
     
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    To you or me, Huawei kit does not represent any more of a security threat than Cisco kit, Nokia, NetGear, D-Link or any other vendor. Encrypt your data on the device using 256-bit or higher and the back-end and it virtually unreadable (the resources required are significant while you *as an individual* are not)

    For the average larger business, they should be monitoring traffic from firewalls and only allowing minimal unencrypted traffic in/out of the DMZ boundaries. This should include routinely blocking data going to unknown sources and they can make their own decisions about which network equipment to use - although Microsoft, Apple, etc all use telematics to report back to base and you can never be 100% sure what is encoded within that data. There is a US law mandating law-enforcement backdoors in network devices, so that isn't really much better. The biggest cause of data breaches are wetwear (people) through phishing, spear-phishing or other targeted attack vectors.

    Secure government should absolutely not be using single-point of failure, unencrypted or untrusted network devices.

    The biggest problem I see with using Huawei on the public backbone is the risk of relying on a single vendor - an unknown security flaw could see networks segments taken offline with bricked routers but having secondary routers from a different vendor can mitigate that.

    The Americans don't like Huawei for several reasons:
    1). Market share (affecting the business of Cisco, Palo Alto, etc)
    2). Investment (they can't compete)
    3). Product features - they are better due to #2
    4). Part of Trump's trade war that is badly affecting middle-America
     
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    Didcot Red Well-Known Member

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    Would anyone want to F**k a member of this government?
     
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    Tarntyke Well-Known Member

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    Boflakes already forming a queue, Some Tory-esque posters on this board.
     
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