Wigan appeal

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  1. Marlon

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    We’ll be here next season for the unpointing of Wendy and Rooney County:)
     
    Marlon, Jul 23, 2020
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    But not for going into administration I guess.
     
    Old Gimmer, Jul 23, 2020
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    who allegedly is the same crook who sold them.
     
    icer, Jul 23, 2020
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    Wigan really arent a big club though. If it had been Fulham or Leeds it would be different I suspect.
     
    Redhelen, Jul 23, 2020
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    Sheffield united failed in their appeal to get one imposed on West Ham for cheating their way to safety at their expense - not sure to be pleased whether the league didnt overturn a relegation or worried that they favoured the cheating side
     
    Farnham_Red, Jul 23, 2020
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    Haven’t they accepted a £2.1m offer from QPR for Moore
     
    Durkar Red, Jul 23, 2020
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    Us not scoring would have saved Charlton not Wigan, wouldn’t it?
     
    BarnsleyReds, Jul 23, 2020
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    They’ll get a deduction. I think our nervousness is that an appeal panel is often willing to show forbearance and meet in the middle somewhere.
     
    BrunNer, Jul 23, 2020
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    I'm not sure it's an issue tbh....the rule is a straightforward simple 12 points, and although I think it should be more, messing about with goal difference is possibly a step too far.
     
    sadbrewer, Jul 23, 2020
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  10. Ged

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    Can i ask.....does anyone know if weds and derby are docked points will they will apply it to this or next season?
     
    Geddiswasguud, Jul 23, 2020
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    Supposed to have but they are not willing to stump up a decent amount for the 1st payment. Administrator wanting most of it up front
     
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    Im not sure what it is exactly their appeal is based on. I heard the administrator was reported as saying COVID didn't affective the admin. Also they dont seem to have breached FFP so the issue isn't argued on how much or little they veered in that direction. This is a club who are administration and hence have the standard 12 points docked as per rules. I can only see that their argument is based on the EFL due diligence in ratifying the new ownership. If thats the case, the EFL would effectively be stating they have failed to operate their own processes properly which then opens things and sets a precedent to a counter appeal or even a bigger claims from clubs like Bury and Bolton their demise is also due to EFL failings. I suspect this will be a case of 12 points being confirmed.

    Also whats happening with Sheff Wed, when will conclusion be declared there
     
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    Let's keep it as it is for me, then the pigs are taken down with a points deduction.
     
    thetykester, Jul 23, 2020
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    For Administration it was 10pts up until 2014, since then it has been 12.
     
    sadbrewer, Jul 23, 2020
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    The more pertinent question is: "Has any club ever appealed a points deduction for going into administration?"

    I think the answer is no.

    However, Blackpool were not deducted any points for going into receivership (as opposed to administration).

    The EFL board said they "agreed that the appointment of the receiver is not material to the club's ability to fulfil its obligations as a member club and as a result should not be regarded as having suffered an insolvency event, meaning a 12-point deduction is not applicable". (from the BBC website.)

    So, does anyone on here know what the difference between receivership and administration is? The former sounds more terminal, yet Blackpool still exist.
     
    Baka, Jul 23, 2020
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    Nobody knows atm bud
     
    Barnsley_Blitz, Jul 23, 2020
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    Could just be my general pessimistic nature, but I get more and more convinced that it will be overturned / reduced by the second.
     
    leythtyke, Jul 23, 2020
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    You might be right. There was a point(maybe just after Brentford scored?) that we were 22nd, and Wigan was 21st, but had a huge goal difference advantage. It highlighted what could be a huge unfair advantage in the right scenario...
     
    Cod Eye, Jul 23, 2020
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    It's all speculation, but my guess is Wednesday will be 'docked' 9 points to be deducted next season. That said the unfathomable inconsistency of the EFL means anything could happen.
     
    George Kerr, Jul 23, 2020
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    A lot of money is at stake...the yanks will take it as far as it can go.
     
    sadbrewer, Jul 23, 2020
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