Face masks again

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  1. SuperTyke

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    What utter rubbish the rules are.

    Face masks in shops if you pop in for a loaf of bread but not in gyms where you're in for an hour breathing heavily or sat in an enclosed cinema for 3 hours watching a movie.
    Face masks in chip shops if you're popping in to pick up a portion of chips but not if you decide to sit down and stay in the same chippy for 20 minutes eating those chips.
    Face masks if you're the shopper but not the person serving you.

    Is it possible to make up a more nonsensical set of rules?
     
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    I actually know a small local takeaway that has put the business up for sale this morning and refurloughed 2 out of employees because they believe this will be the death of their business as well. The majority of their trade is people popping in whilst walking past and they just can't see people wearing a face mask outdoors just in case they pop into a shop.
     
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    Just get on with it. Wear your mask and protect yourself and those around you. It’s nothing near 100% effective but it will give a little protection. Still better than none.
    Some place you won’t have to wear one. Pubs and restaurants and gyms as you say.
    Here shop assistants do have to were masks or visors.
    Just do it and he safe
     
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    if i was them I’d buy a box of disposable wear once masks, have them by the door.

    50p on a voluntary basis if needed or stick the prices up 2%

    I get it’s not easy but adapt or die.
     
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    Mask it or casket. Your choice.
     
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    Despite the law not insisting on it, most of the major food supermarkets are instructing their staff to wear masks from tomorrow. Checkout staff don't need to as they are behind perspex screens, but shop floor staff running around filling up have to. It's a PR exercise, "we are doing it to show support for our customers".
    So staff will be getting hot and uncomfortable, so they will be pulling at their masks in order to help them breath and will be touching their faces. I guarantee there will be far more staff sickness due to staff wearing masks than previously. Bosses playing PR with people's lives.
     
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    I'll follow the rules but imo its balls
     
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    This is my last post on facemasks, as I’m well aware how unpopular it’s making me; and I’m also well aware of the right wing connotations of being ‘anti-mask’ - and as you all know; I ain’t no right winger.

    Tomorrow legislation will pass making masks a legal requirement for 12 months, (with the slight caveat that Hand-**** will get a unilateral right to review in six months; apparently, someone died and made him God).

    I do understand if you think that trading off the right to choose what to wear is worth it for the societal medical benefit. I disagree, I think all credible scientific evidence available until the WHO bowed to lobbyist pressure two months ago points to you being wrong, but I do understand the view and I’m OK with that.

    However - don’t just let this pass because you think ‘orrr, it’s just for a few weeks’. This change, that’s happening now, will be forever. We're introducing masks at a time when there is tiny levels of community transmission taking place (my town, Stockport, has approximately 200,000 people living in it and is seeing positive test numbers of around 2-3 people per day - and those are almost solely in hospitals/homes etc). The curve is flatter than Brentford’s promotion party. So at what point do you stop? And what politician is now going to be brave enough, in the face of overwhelming public anxiety generated by incessant scaremongering, to make a unilaterally declaration of "it's safe now".

    I honestly think now we've crossed this bridge there's no going back. Again, if you’re alright with that - I’m alright with you being alright with it. As long as you know it’s a permanent change.

    For me, I’m not comfortable with any of this. I’m not comfortable with the basic right to education being unilaterally removed from my kids, I’m not alright with having access to arts, sport and culture removed until an undefined point in time that Boris dictates, and I’m not alright with a totalitarian government that tells you what to wear for some spurious marginal potential medical benefit.

    I’ll comply, as I’m not so pigheaded to think that it’s impossible that I’m wrong about transmission, but every time I wear one of your Uighur-slave produced, ocean polluting face nappies I’ll be sad and angry at the way the UK population has meekly conceded totalitarian power to a Government of utter shithouses.
     
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    Lady in Tesco today was serving, she was behind a Perspex shield had a paper mask on and a visor over the top of it.
     
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    There was a bloke on Jeremy Vine on Radio 2, saying that the single use masks in the quantity they are going to be used will be an environmental disaster. Basically because they are made with paper and plastic they are not recyclable so they will end up in landfill or simply littering the countryside (as they are already round here). Not only that but the carbon footprint of manufacturing them is huge.

    I'm going to wear my Barnsley scarf even if the temperature is 30C. We should all do the same.
     
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    Don't you think the legislation is absolutely ridiculous though? One person pops into a shop for 2 minutes. The law dictates must wear one. Another person does a heavy gym session and is allowed to do as they please
     
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    Haven’t agreed with you much during the rules around masks make zero sense.
     
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    I think it is about minimising the rate of transmission where possible.

    It isn't possible to eat your chips through a mask. It isn't a good idea to do exercise indoors with a mask on either. Professional athletes might be able to tolerate it. Cinemas... yeah maybe that could be doable but again if someone's going to be sat for 2hrs plus they will want refreshments.

    Masks should've been implemented months ago. I don't think they will become the permanent norm as someone above fears. That is my opinion. If it helps to keep the country from a second spike I am happy to wear one for a few months when i go shopping. If it stops me unwittingly transmitting it to someone then so be it.
     
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    Why can't masks be worn in gyms? We've all seen the video from the doctor showing no lower oxygen levels when wearing I think it was 6 masks on top of each other. Absolutely no reason one can't be used in a gym.

    Same with a cinema. People may WANT refreshments but at what point does what someone want override what is safest? I wanted to leave my house a few months ago but I was banned from doing so.
     
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    I'm with you and nothing right wing about it. I hate the right wing for several reasons. Also theirs a lot of things what I think about this virus too but I won't say. Were all human were all different. I'll just wear one for the rules and the majority
     
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    Yes I do supertyke. But it’s all about doing as much as possible to help reduce transmission.
    Why do you think all the doctors and nurses in Covid wards wear masks?
     
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    I've seen reports saying that wearing masks whilst doing cardio restricts airflow?? Having worn one I find it hard to believe that isn't true?
     
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    Just been in Asda in Glasgow. Bloke in there wearing his mask over his eyes to make his girlfriend laugh while he shopped for veggies. I'm guessing that doesn't count.
     
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    It isn't about doing as much as possible though, with this bent and incompetent government it's about doing whatever is most visible for the cameras
     
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