Bournemouth - considering suing Hawkeye

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  1. Farnham_Red

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    edit it didnt even go against them - it was in a game in which they werent even playing
     
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    Villa would argue that had the goal stood against them their game plan would have changed to get a leveller, so not for me
     
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    I think that this one would be outside the statute of limitations. Good thought though, that Liverpool game was one of only 3 premier league games I saw that season.
     
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    Hawkeye and VAR are there to assist the officials.

    I dont think it says officials have to rely on them. They still have flags and whistles.

    If the linesman (sorry referees assistant) thought it had crossed the line, then stick your flag up and wave it. Similarly, VAR could have been used to check.

    They didnt. It's called tough luck as **** as it is because it was a clear goal.
     
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    Alan Alda??? what's he done to Bournemouth:D
     
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    groan - had to think about that one for a second before the penny dropped
     
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    Thought it might be beyond your Radar.
     
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    madness to even consider it IMHO.
     
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    Might as well go sue FIFA over the 2010 World Cup as well

    (Actually don’t know if we did)
     
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    It does seem an interesting one though, particularly as Hawkeye accepted responsibility and admitted the mistake.
     
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    Any club blaming one incident for relegation can't accept they were not good enough over 38 games.
     
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    Sestren Well-Known Member

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    Arguably they were good enough though. If the system hadn't failed then they'd have stayed up. This isn't the standard ups and downs of refereeing decisions, or a dodgy offside call - it was a clear goal that was not given through equipment failure. Aston Villa are definitively one goal worse than their statistics show, and that one goal would have kept Bournemouth up.

    If a clear penalty isn't given then there's always room for manouevre - we allow referees the freedom to make a call. In this case the ball crossed the line and the sensors - which were introduced to combat mistakes - didn't pick it up. Technology should be held to a higher standard than human beings in cases like this - I think Bournemouth have a moral case (if perhaps not a legal one) for saying that Hawkeye specifically has cost them a considerable amount of money.
     
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    According to Simon Jordan on the radio earlier Hawkeye have never claimed their system was 100% accurate and advised the PL and so the club's where the shortcomings were one of which was if all the cameras views were obscured by players officials or goal structures so that less than 25% off the ball was visible to any of them it wouldnt be able to tell if the ball crossed the line. The club's decided that dispite this they would use the Hawkeye system so I would have thought Hawkeye just need to point that out to a judge and it's case closed.
     
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    They've got no chance. Firstly do hawkeye owe Bournemouth a duty of care? Secondly how can you prove that one issue was causative of relegation? If that goal goes in then the rest of the game and the whole season plays out differently. It's not as if you can say everything would have finished as it did down there but with Villa on 1 less point.
     
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    Oh, 100% - I didn't really think it would succeed, and you've convinced me! I just think that as far as these things go they've got more of a moral case than most. That's because it's not a dodgy decision, it's a provably incorrect one.

    My personal opinion is that the fault lies with the Premier League, as IIRC I don't believe the refereeing team is allowed to override goal line tech decisions no matter how ludicrous they are. They're the ones that have put complete faith in a system that evidently isn't fit for purpose.
     
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    Well think back to Sheff Utd and their claim that the Carlos Tevez ownership issue sent them down.. They ended up with millions instead of being laughed out of court.

    If we end up relegated due to the Wigan appeal, you can guarantee it would be the latter!
     
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    Hawkeye did give the goal though, it just happened to be in the referees dressing room at half time. In the immediate aftermath a number of sheff Utd players were appealing the decision but Micheal Oliver clearly indicated that his watch hadn’t gone off and that was what he was relying on. No chance Bournemouth will stay up because of it but I could certainly see a situation where interested parties are prepared to financially recompense them on the quiet to avoid a huge PR nightmare.
     
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    It's not Bournemouth who lost out directly though. Maybe different if it happened the very last match but they had more than enough time to get the points necessary.

    Are Sheff Utd sueing cos they didn't get into Europe, given as they were directly involved?
     
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    Sounds very much like the AFC Bournemouth owner is intent on keeping Eddie Howe and
    his present squad of players together in an attempt to get back to the Premiership next season.
    I would think out of them, Norwich or Watford they certainly stand the best chance of regaining
    their position in the top division.


    Bournemouth owner Maxim Demin 'committed' to top flight return
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53574722
     
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