No lockdown and the total number of deaths by now would be beyond horrific. All life saving medical procedures continued throughout the lockdown. You have a huge agenda and are mostly working with ifs and buts with little real evidence. I will not be taking the Darwinian line here. We have seen many people die who are fit and healthy including a few hundred colleagues in the nhs (who were indeed fit and healthy enough to be working in the nhs). Warped 'logic.
Show meeting yesterday with sturgeon and her cult FM education results s*** today going to get hammered by the Press what can we do do I know lets shut Aberdeen. Deflect questions after all there was a bloke with a sniffle you could blame him. Sounds like a plan. Guys dont be fooled there is only one reason Aberdeen was shut...typical Sturgeon.
This is a great post, mainly as for the first time there’s some honesty here about the agenda of the hardcore lockdown community. It’s not about ‘flatten the peak’ for you guys at all, is it - appreciate the honesty in this post Scoff.
How many deaths is your personal line in the sand before you would advocate locking the country down and closing all none essential businesses?
Digital nomad ffs. If you can do your job entirely from home then someone in Asia can do it just as effectively and cheaper.
Im sorry, and I know we’ve been here before, but so many people keep stating this as fact and it’s far, far from that: https://www.lboro.ac.uk/news-events/news/2020/july/new-approach-to-recording-covid-deaths/ I understand and respect that you don’t agree but on this side of the argument there’s credible academic studies and on the other there’s Neil f-cking Ferguson, a man responsible for the needless deaths of millions of livestock and shortly to replicate that with British people.
My favourite part of his post was him a fusing jay of 'working with ifs and buts' a grand total of two sentences after making a huge if and but statement and telling us what might have happened if something else had happened.
We were told the whole point of lockdown was to stop the NHS being overwhelmed by everyone becoming sick at the same time. No lockdown or social distancing can stop the spread of a virus, simply delay it. Look at Australia and Argentina.
I haven't checked who he is (beyond his current job) so I await to be told we shouldn't listen to a word this guy says either.
On a slightly related note, whoever said estate agents/conveyancing is on its arse is wrong. My uncle works for a conveyancing firm in town and they're rushed off their feet and turning work away - and two blokes I know (one for Merryweathers and one for WH Brown) are busier than they've been in "years" (their quote not mine). Anecdotal and a small sample size, but I think the housing market is fine round here for now.
Just completely untrue. Along with the fact that’s nothing to do with lockdown. Companies that were able to or wanted to outsource their employees to asia have and will do so, regardless of people working from home. I don’t see the correlation at all. It’s been possible to work from home for 10 years now, yet there are still office jobs in the UK. What a shock. Your logic makes no sense, you think the reason there are still office jobs in the UK is because companies also want to hire expensive offices? The only place where you may have a point is in unskilled jobs such as call centres. But the majority of those are already outsources and those that remain don’t remain because there’s an office to fill. They remain because they either can’t be or don’t want to be outsourced.
Food manufacturing is currently booming as well. With more people eating meals at home, I have recieved two bonuses since March.
It was me that started the discussion on this and it was more a idle thought I didn't base it on much. Just I keep hearing that upto now the reason lot of people (who could) didn't work from home was that companies didn't think it would work. Now we are saying it has worked, so maybe more work will be outsourced. Call centre work is not outsourced because it is "unskilled" it is outsourced because location is irrelevant.
Isn't there a risk that many companies didn't really realise that they could have employees working from home before? They thought that location mattered and that he employees had to physically be in an office in order to do the job, they have now realised that the job can be done remotely as the government forced them to trial it and if it can be done remotely what is the reason it has to be a local doing that job? Even if the job doesn't go abroad what is to stop for example barnsley council from employing people who live in London to do the jobs that they have decided do not need a physical presence at all?
On your first point, I think it’s unlikely that companies only just realised as you put it. The majority of companies have been doing work from home for years, with varying degrees of success. I highly doubt anything has changed on that. On your second point, it’s a hell of a lot cheaper to hire someone in Barnsley than London, so logic would dictate it would go the opposite way in practise.
To sit in a stand with distance between people wouldn't be a problem. It's the concources and the crush to get in or out that transmission would be most likely to happen.