Really don’t get it.

Not to create a thread on the same subject.
But I really don’t understand lots on the other threads re salary caps.
The vast majority complaining on the latest. But for years have been posting in favour of FFP.
The devil you do the devil you don’t springs to mind
This ruling not only is a lifeline for lots of clubs. But is also a FFP. To allow em to compete.
The clubs have voted for it. On this occasion I have to agree to most extent.
League 1 players wanting/demanding more in equivalent wages. To players from the 70s/80s with European cup winners medals . Players on probably the equivalent of 4x average pay. Now league 1. some demanding 10x average wage.
Wake up time has arrived for lots of players.
As I say if you are not in favour of salary caps or the amounts set please use the other threads.

 

What I don't understand is how it actually helps. I thought that league 1 and 2 already had strict procedures in place that should stop any club from spending beyond their means. They have to demonstrate their earnings in advance before they can sign players and the amount they can spend is a fixed percentage of their income. Its reviewed before the January transfer window too and if income has dropped then their spending allowance is also lowered for the window.

At least that's how I understood it

 

It needs drip feeding in though, in any walk of life you can't suddenly be on 5k per week then £500 without suffering
Footballers need to realise that a career ends at 36 so they need to earn enough to retire must stop and then think of what next instead of thinking their big wages will last forever

 

What about signing on fees ?
does it say anything
you buy a player pay him 5000 a week with whatever 10 million pound signing fee.
what about sponsor money
could a sponsor or the clubs sponsors pay XX millions to a player or players separately from club salary's to get around this.
if adidas etc paid a player or players in a side huge separate personal outside deals.
how would they stop it it would be non of there business
and you're going to get investment fund groups buying clubs and using them to make money selling players i would have thought

 

It is being drip-fed in. For instance, Will Grigg's existing contract with Sunderland will be considered to be the maximum of (£2.5million/52/20) per week for accounting purposes and not whatever it really is.

Grigg - and others - will find problems arise when they go after a subsequent contract, but existing ones are okay.

 

Even on 500 a week (why are footballers' wages always 'per week' by the way?) that's a lot more than many people earn (I still cant see them lowering wages by that much by the way). I also think 'suffering' is the wrong word. And footballers start on more than most from a young age (17/18). They know what they sign up for, and more needs to be done to educate them early on in basic budgeting/saving etc. I have no sympathy for their career ending around mid-thirties. They are privileged in that they can continue in the game by reputation/knowledge of the game (though they still need to put the work in), and if not they need to accept they are adults and take responsibility for their finances/life. I think footballers are wrongly treated as 'boys' well into their mid twenties and it's damaging.

 

£1600 a month take home, it’s less than the average monthly wage. I know £500 a week sounds a lot but it isn’t really.

I’m all for a salary cap however across all leagues and even other nations. Totally unenforceable but hey.

 

Website doesn’t specifically cover signing on , but does cover wages, bonuses, taxes, agents and any other direct or indirect, so I take that as would include signing on fees.

 

Trouble is examples you give about continuing in game etc is only relevant for a very small %. The vast majority don’t.

 

Then the vast majority that don't will have to do what us mere mortals have to do. Gerra job and work for their living.

 

Was just gonna say same. If you are enter a career with a time limit you should be planning your next career move whilst still in your first career.

 

Absolutely as they used to and most still do.

 

I wonder how many of our former players haven't got a job after leaving us and retiring.
The only one I can think of off the top of my head is dyer who I always assume just does voluntary work

 

I just think they exist outside of the real world and dont like the pitying tone that tends to creep in when discussing how footballers will cope 'suffer' when they retire, or have to take a wage cut. I am below the average, I'm 33 and have never earned 1600 take home. I manage, I budget, I realise that life is in my hands, and i dont complain or worry about life beyond 35.

 

Sort of my point though. It's a choice to continue in the game and put in the hard graft necessary to achieve it. There's a sense of entitlement up to that point, where footballers choose money over loyalty to a club (fair enough I suppose) and are bankrolled. Beyond that, they are on their own the way most people are on their own from the age of 18/21 in normal life.

 

Shipperley took up whacking off in public. I’m not sure it’s a recognized Profession.

 

I dont get the "we want paying £££££££££a week because I will most probably retire at 35" wtf, have a word with yourselves, retire at 35 lol, do what the normal people do if you are let go by your employer at 35, retrain or look for other employment, there are quite a few players now aiming off and getting their 5hit into one sock for retirement.

 

There's a real problem when '500 a week' (which let's be honest is a rarity) sounds like a pittance for a footballer when for a large part of the population they're earning less. And then 5000 a week at Barnsley is seen as not enough and no wonder they move on for four times as much. Again, fair enough, but something is seriously wrong. 5000 a week is obscene in the grand scheme of things, they're earning more than the PM. And by their early twenties they will have been able to buy in full their own house/apartment. How many people can say that even at the age of 40? A lot of people are lucky to get their first mortgage at 40, but poor footballers, unemployed at 35. No sympathy.

 

More than the PM no comment needed.

 

I think the celery cap is a daft idea , the players are going to look daft