Zero Covid

Totally unrealistic and very controlling. If we wait until we are covid free to end restrictions then our two trillion national debt will keep rising.

 

Read an interesting discussion earlier that was from a couple of professors. The upshot was that the reason our rate is so low (although rising steadily) is precisely the same reason as the slower recovery - people don't trust the government. There is an element from the shape of our industries (being mainly services) that allows many more people to work from home, but also leaves companies providing services to office workers vulnerable.

I did see that Germany has extended their version of the furlough scheme in some areas for another 18 months.

 

Zero covid can't be done without a working vaccine. We are in the best position we've been in all along with Covid now only the 8th biggest cause for deaths. But we will still have scare tactics predicting another lockdown coming up.

 

New Zealand managed it for a bit and you’d bet on them to do it again.

 

Zero-Covid is the most dangerous policy to the health, welfare, well-being and prosperity of the British people since the Second World War.

 

They aren't scare tactics...

 

There are 588 people in hospital because of the vid in England. There are fewer than 70 people in critical care beds in the UK.

 

In fairness that Tweet just seems sensible, the NHS should prepare for the worse and hopefully it will be for nothing.

 

Just remember that there are well over 100 infectious diseases and in the documented history of medicine we have only managed to eradicate TWO of them.

Covid-19 is caused by sars-cov-2. We haven't managed to get rid of sars-cov-1 which has been around for 17 years.

Quite why there are people who think we will eradicate this disease I will never know

 

Scotland are getting close

4509 deaths registered during July 2020.

1364 from Cancer
1207 from Circulatory condition
345 from respiratory conditions
5 with Covid-19

 

So New Zealand failed once and are trying again. (I mean failed on the target of zero bwt)
What cost in non-covid excess deaths is acceptable to achieve this, though?

 

no they succeeded once and probably will again. no noticeable uptick in other excess deaths but then they have n actual adult running the country.

 

They also have just 15 people per square kilometre compared to England's 275

 

And are able to close the borders in a way that would be much harder for us economically. Maybe they will be fortunate and the virus will have mutated into a weaker strain. If it hasn't then they are still vulnerable without permanent restrictions.
So when I say they failed I ment, the target was zero. They achieved this, then it started again. So what's the end game? Huge restrictions for months then repeat?

 

Yeh, and a population of under 5 million spread over two islands.

 

Amusing how all the people who wanted a Spanish approach have quietly realised they were wrong and now they’ve moved their attention to New Zealand - meanwhile conveniently ignoring the UK’s reliance on imports.

 

The U.K. is ******. Incredibly poor leadership has led us to the worst of all worlds. One of the worst death tolls in the world and a capsizing economy. We should have locked down early and hard. Allowing only truly essential places to open. We should in that period have developed a robust track and trace system. We could then have unlocked much earlier. We should have sealed borders for the 6 or so weeks that this would have been necessary. We should have quarantined all brits returning during this period. When lockdown was eased we should then have continued quarantining all arrivals. We did none of those things. So we are where we are. It’s difficult to see an easy route at this point and even if there was one the current govt are not capable or competent enough to act.

 

Spot on.