Purely theoretical question regarding Woodrow.

Spot on mate. If it’s to be believed A fee has been agreed with Brentford. But other clubs appear to be in the hunt . Celtic. Villa. Just 2 and According to the player himself he wants to play at the highest level. Fee agreed maybe. Player agreed. Not that I’m aware of.

 

If you look closely at Transfermarkt, it shows Bree with an identical fee to Hourihane's - both £3.15m. I'm certain from what was said at the time that we received £3.15m in total for the pair. The Bruce comment also makes that add up. Winnall and Hourihane were in the same contract position. There's no way we got 500k for one and over £3m for the other.

Edit: Oh I forgot. There's this interview with Heckingbottom as well.

https://www.theleaguepaper.com/featured/7439/big-interview-barnsley-boss-paul-heckingbottom/

 

He was at St. George's Park with us last week. Well, not 'with us', but Peterborough were there the same week. Great kid and will be fantastic at Brentford with the way they play fooball. Or Celtic, in a division not too dissimilar to League One. I fear he'd be underused by a Prem side and stunt his development. But cash is king.

 

I get that pointyender the market doesn’t say what we got for bree ( undisclosed) could have been £100k for all I know given your theory. I will admit I tend to agree it’s more likely we got £3.15 for the pair. . And regards Heckys interview he does say Hourihane in his estimation was worth £10m. But then says . About Winnall/Bree and Hourihane.
“All three departees were out of contract in May, forcing inopportune sales and valuations vastly below market value. Hourihane alone would almost certainly have commanded more than £10m, while Winnall wouldn’t have been far behind.”
Which is exactly what I’ve been attempting to say. Market forces. Not market value. Dictated the fees.
Bit like an Auction. But if you’ve only got 1 bidder and you fix a reserve the difference is you stand to lose your lot for nowt.
As for having pants down.
Another example. Hecky signs new contract. Leeds within a day or 2 have to compensate Barnsley more than they would have. Hecky flops. Leeds have to pay him up.
Only Barnsley it seems.

 

It does. It says £3.15 million for Bree and £3.15 million for Hourihane, which clearly isn't right. It was £3.15 million for the pair. There's what Bruce says and then in the Heckingbottom interview I linked it says:

"Top scorer Sam Winnall was the first to go, flogged to Sheffield Wednesday for a knockdown £500,000.

Next came defender James Bree and playmaker Conor Hourihane, bundled up in a £3m package to Aston Villa."

 

Play chicken once in a while. If we thought he was average, what’s the risk? If you want a decent fee, you can’t keep rolling over can you?

 

Patrick confirmed the upfront fee was only £2.2m at a supporters event. We were lucky the Man City offer came so swiftly, but shows how hugely undervalued he was when we sold him, no?

 

You assume much to confirm your own biases as usual. But as always, your assumptions are flawed.

 

I too have valuations of players that match Heckys but I don’t begin to know what goes on behind the scenes. But you’re quoting Patrick. Who was pouring money into the club. Stones had only played 24 games. Some of us thought it was a good deal. ( hindsight says different. ) I’ll take your word that Patrick said that. I’ve no reason to think otherwise . I was present at a lot of meetings of the fans forum and I can’t remember him talking fees. But I do remember him quoting how much he was pouring into the club to stop it going into debt.
Dragging up the past to condemn these presently in charge without thinking. Market forces dictate.
As I’ve said. You said it’s been going on for decades. To a degree Patrick’s era may have some credence other than that. ?
This started with your we must get £15 m for Woodrow. All I’m trying to point out is if we didn’t it won’t be because we are a soft touch.

 

Can I tell you something that I have discovered about the BBS. You are not going to win any arguments. You are not going to change any opinions, no matter how qualified, or unqualified you are in the subject. Life has become so much easier since I decided to make my point, discuss it whilst it is fun, and withdraw when it ceases to be fun. Try it... It works.

 

Threads that involve you do tend to, because you don't half split hairs at times.

 

Aside from the Hourihane era, we have a long and proud history of woeful set piece delivery. Jim O’Brien still has the Guinness world record for most corners failing to beat the first defender.

 

You really are a fascinating piece of work.

A man who sees fit to regularly insult others but who, at the first sight of any retort, threatens with “I’m reporting you to Site Admin” or seeks refuge in making troll allegations

A number of people on here have messaged me about you to this effect. In fact some of those have stopped coming on here "because of people like you”.

Look at the definition of trolling and you’ll find yourself looking in the mirror. Calling someone a “moronic little man” and referring to them as “it” is rather like the pot calling the kettle black isn’t it?

Get help. You should ask yourself why you come on here when, in the main, all you do is consistently criticise and insult the town, the club, the Board, the Manager, the coaching team, the club’s fans, and the players (quote “they’re just a bunch of foetuses”).

Apparently a troll is someone who has to have the last word. In which case I don’t expect a response from you; to which end your charge against me would be proven.

I can live with that because I have more insight into who I am than you do.

 

I'd like to see us hold out for a decent fee IF we have to sell him. (For me he hasn't disappointed since he became our player) His scoring record alone deserves it and I'm sure he's no trouble maker like Marcus Maddison.
I think clubs like Peterborough do better in terms of attracting higher fees because they say no sometimes, we want this price.

 

I suggest you look in all your mirrors. Try posting actual content. And stop trolling people.

You're an irrelevance. So stop trolling me and you'll never get called "it" again, will you?

Interesting that you let out a furious tirade of abuse and then try and bully me into silence by your final sentence.

I speak as I find, and I praise when I find and I criticise when I find.

There is a mute button. I suggest you use it. But then you couldn't follow me round everywhere, could you?